From: Peter Köhlmann on 26 Mar 2010 09:01 -hh wrote: > Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlm...(a)t-online.de> wrote: >> D.F. Manno wrote: >> > In article <hoe40n$296$0...(a)news.t-online.com>, >> > Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlm...(a)t-online.de> wrote: >> >> >> nospam wrote: >> >> > Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >> >> >> And its going to cost you reams of dough if you are overseas >> >> >> > get a local sim and it won't be, but you can't see through your >> >> > hatred to think of these things. >> >> >> Yes, always "just buy another one". You guys apologize for apples >> >> screwing its customers with just that: Spend more money >> >> >> Do you realize how utterly ridiculous you cargo cult members really >> >> are? >> >> > On this point, you're the fool. Any half-competent travel agent or >> > travel writer will tell people with GSM phones to buy a SIM card >> > in-country to avoid paying the exorbitant overseas roaming charges. >> >> Yes, just as i said. "Buy *another* one". And another. And yet another > > > Here's the question: how much of an effort is it worth to lower your > expenses? > > For example, a USA smartphone "roaming" in EU can easily incur an > additional $300/week in expenses. Do you think saving $300 per > occasion worth the effort buying a local SIM? > > Not to be too insulting, but for the "Linux cheapskate" stereotype, I > don't see how they could possibly say No. > > > Get a clue, Peter: you're going to pay for Service one way or the > other. > Well, the apple fanboiz wanted it compared to the Kindle. With the argument that the kindle costs "only" $10 less than a iPad. And what kind of "hypocazy" it is to slam the iPad for it being incredibly overpriced, while nothing is said of the Kindle Well, the cost of the kindle includes the online costs. For lifetime of the device. The iPad does not, you pay. And pay. And pay Either you cretinous cult members stop making incorrect arguments, or they will be thrown back into your ugly faces Got it? Idoubt it that you can actually muster the necessary 2 braincells -- All things are possible, except skiing thru a revolving door.
From: chrisv on 26 Mar 2010 09:31 ZnU wrote: >> Not in the two example I just gave. They are both technically >> inferior designs, justified by their aesthetic appeal. It is >> therefore proven that Apple will make this compromise. > >It merely proves that when you try to do things differently, rather than >just doing what everyone else is doing, sometimes you get something >better, and occasionally you get something worse. Dude. They know damn well that they (sometimes) sacrifice function for aesthetics. If you can't concede that point, you've drunken far too much of the kool-aid.
From: JEDIDIAH on 26 Mar 2010 09:53 On 2010-03-24, Mocassin joe <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:240320101426013320%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... >> In article >> <f402f57f-1355-45c7-87c6-0de35f9a56d7(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, -hh >> <recscuba_google(a)huntzinger.com> wrote: >> >>> In general, its pretty silly to suggest that its critical to have a >>> USB port and then claim that you're never going to have any "dangly" >>> problems because you're not going to ever plug anything into it. >> >> you noticed that contradiction too? >> >> the extent to which people go just to slam something is unreal. > > the extent to which people go just to defend something that is plain > wrong is unreal. If you think you can't have USB without cables getting snagged on stuff then you have absolutlely no imagination. Clearly you aren't the sort of "creative" person that Apple Corp tries to cater to with their products. [snicker] -- Unauthorized distribution of your work is going to happen. That ||| particular genie left the bottle a long time ago. You can either be / | \ cool about it and possibly gain from it or big the biggest jerk you can be and alienate potential fans.
From: -hh on 26 Mar 2010 11:42 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlm...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > -hh wrote: > > Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlm...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >> D.F. Manno wrote: > >> > In article <hoe40n$296$0...(a)news.t-online.com>, > >> > Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlm...(a)t-online.de> wrote: > > >> >> nospam wrote: > >> >> > Peter Köhlmann wrote: > > >> >> >> And its going to cost you reams of dough if you are overseas > > >> >> > get a local sim and it won't be, but you can't see through your > >> >> > hatred to think of these things. > > >> >> Yes, always "just buy another one". You guys apologize for apples > >> >> screwing its customers with just that: Spend more money > > >> >> Do you realize how utterly ridiculous you cargo cult members really > >> >> are? > > >> > On this point, you're the fool. Any half-competent travel agent or > >> > travel writer will tell people with GSM phones to buy a SIM card > >> > in-country to avoid paying the exorbitant overseas roaming charges. > > >> Yes, just as i said. "Buy *another* one". And another. And yet another > > > Here's the question: how much of an effort is it worth to lower your > > expenses? > > > For example, a USA smartphone "roaming" in EU can easily incur an > > additional $300/week in expenses. Do you think saving $300 per > > occasion worth the effort buying a local SIM? > > > Not to be too insulting, but for the "Linux cheapskate" stereotype, I > > don't see how they could possibly say No. > > > Get a clue, Peter: you're going to pay for Service one way or the > > other. > > Well, the apple fanboiz wanted it compared to the Kindle. With the > argument that the kindle costs "only" $10 less than a iPad. And what kind > of "hypocazy" it is to slam the iPad for it being incredibly overpriced, > while nothing is said of the Kindle > > Well, the cost of the kindle includes the online costs. For lifetime of > the device. Factually incorrect. The "pay once" only applies for the market for which it was purchased. The new Global version of the Kindle does works in Europe, but if it was purchased in the US you are charged with "roaming" charges each time you download something via the 3G wireless when out of the USA. Currently, this extra cost is a surcharge of $1.99 per book, $4.99 per week for newspapers/magazines. > The iPad does not, you pay. And pay. And pay Just like nearly all other cellular services, and yet this criticism is being leveled _only_ at Apple? How hypocritically convenient! > Either you cretinous cult members stop making incorrect arguments, or they > will be thrown back into your ugly faces Likewise. > Got it? Idoubt it that you can actually muster the necessary 2 braincells Perhaps not, but at least those "2 braincells" have noticed that you very conveniently ignored the point being made, which is that roaming charges suck, regardless of what product it is at hand. FWIW, I think that my personal cellphone bill record ... which FYI wasn't on an Apple product ... is $1500 in roaming in a single monthly bill. As such, it makes your scratching over nickels and dimes to be quite childlike. -hh
From: nospam on 26 Mar 2010 14:37
In article <hohoqc$kf5$00$3(a)news.t-online.com>, Peter K�hlmann <peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote: > > On this point, you're the fool. Any half-competent travel agent or > > travel writer will tell people with GSM phones to buy a SIM card > > in-country to avoid paying the exorbitant overseas roaming charges. > > > Yes, just as i said. "Buy *another* one". And another. And yet another except that it's not buy another. since the ipad is pay as you go, you cancel one and switch to a sim local to the other country. then when you return, you switch back. but why let facts get in the way. not to mention that the price of a local sim is negligible in comparison to the airfare, hotel, ground transportation, food and other expenses incurred on an overseas trip. |