From: D.F. Manno on
In article <6mj287-tmq.ln1(a)spanky.localhost.net>,
Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> My machine regularly has a USB wireless mouse, an external drive (which
> happens to be eSata, but supports USB), and a 16Gb USB key hanging off
> it.
>
> The wife's netbook has the USB mouse, USB key and a USB DVD drive
> attached pretty much all the time. Plus a USB printer, though she swaps
> the key and printer back and forth - only so many USB slots.
>
> We each have the same basic problem: too few USB ports per machine.
> Yes, we could get USB hubs, but that's not the point... the notion
> people don't use USB on laptops is laughable.
>
> Oh, and yes, we also have a USB roaming wireless network adapter, which
> we share about.
>
> And let's not forget the USB phones, which we transfer contacts, photos,
> etc, to and from.
>
> Or the USB digital camera.

If you're already lugging that much stuff around with you, what's one
more adapter?

--
D.F. Manno
dfmanno(a)mail.com
"Quid lucrum istic mihi est?"
From: -hh on
Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> [snips]
>
> Here's a trivial example: photos.  Take the digital cam with you
> (because the iPad has no cam at all, let alone a decent one).  Take
> pictures.  Problem: cam's display is tiny.  Simple solution: either plug
> the cam's USB cable into the netbook and transfer files that way, or pop
> out its SD card, pop it into the netbook, and pop in a new card.
>
> This makes it trivial to review the photos on a screen large enough to
> make out details, figuring out which shots to retake if need be, and so
> forth.
>
> So, let's see... plug the cam's USB cable into... oh, wait, you can't -
> no USB connector.
>
> Okay, fine, pop out its SD card and plug it into... oh, wait, you can't
> - no SD reader.

And how much of the above is merely your specific use case?

First off, my camera came with Video cables to hook up to a TV right
for a display output.

Of course, its a lot more convenient to simply zoom in on the LCD
display right after taking the shot. Such magnification (to roughly
10x) have been pretty standard in camera firmware for _several_ camera
generations now - I have a 4MP P&S that has this feature.


> Need we even mention trying to get data *off* the thing?

Perhaps the same way the data got on? You've forgotten that this
isn't a stand-alone device (like a netbook is).

> A movie, say,
> which you can't play on your nice big screen TV, because there's no HDMI
> out, which you can't save to SD as it's downloading, for effectively
> instant transfer, and you can't copy over a speedy USB link, being
> forced, instead, to do it over a wireless shot?

USB is being described as "speedy"? Can you perhaps set the bar a
tad bit lower? Of course, you do know that the feature you want is
present, namely that USB hardware connection. What's throwing you off
is that it merely has Apple's proprietary plug on the one end.

> It's a great design - for selling accessories.  Want the video out?  Buy
> a docking station.  Want the USB and SD support?  Buy an adapter.  From
> a perspective of raking in money, it's a grand design.  From a
> perspective of being able to use it with anything else, not so much.

Yes, there's invariably a business model that underlies some of the
decisions that they make. Fortunately, most of us still have free
will and are able to resist the Reality Distortion Field that tempts
consumers to promptly open their wallets. From a higher
philosophical perspective, I understand that I must allow Apple to
make a profit because if they do not do so, then there won't be the
resources for those forward investments in future innovations and my
future choices will be fewer, less diverse and less creative. While
this doesn't mean that Apple can avoid delivering a good product, but
what it does mean is that I don't mind when there are some seemingly-
odd trade-offs along the way.



-hh
From: MuahMan on
On Mar 28, 12:00 am, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <f34f3670-d5ad-44af-9f8f-874ea22c1...(a)j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> MuahMan <muah...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > The SECOND you turn your GPS on it knows
> > your location.  LOL LOL LOL
>
> for a hot start, a second to get a lock is typical. for warm & cold
> starts, no way.

I have several Garmin, Hummingbird, and Tom Tom's and an iPhone 3GS.
They all take around 30 seconds to lock onto the satellite signal. I
would not suggest using the GPS (Tom Tom 1.3) on the iPhone however,
from 100% charge to dead is 21 minutes (18 with voice) of navigation
time. Which kinda sux as you couldn't use as a GPS to say find your
way around a large city. My Tom Tom 930T will do around 8 hours.
From: -hh on
"D.F. Manno" <dfma...(a)mail.com> wrote:
>  Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, they offered a more
> > expensive option, which actually makes the whole "dangly thing"
> > situation _worse_ than if the ports were built in, and reqiuring
> > another, small, easy-to-misplace item instead.
>
> You would rather force everybody to pay for USB/SD support, including
> those who don't want and may never need it, because you want it. Why
> should everybody pay for what you want?

I predominantly use CF. So since the argument is to be a "Photo Do
All", you have to add a CF slot too.

BTW, my brother uses some lousy Olympus cameras ... xD card. Add that
slot too.

That pretty much leave's Sony's Memory Stick out in the cold. Yup,
one more card slot.

Of course, there's also mini-SD and micro-SD .. should Apple put in
two more ports for these, so as to avoid having introducing two tiny
"easy to misplace" SD adaptors?


Damn that slippery slope! :-)



-hh
From: MuahMan on
On Mar 28, 12:17 am, -hh <recscuba_goo...(a)huntzinger.com> wrote:
>  "D.F. Manno" <dfma...(a)mail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > No, they offered a more
> > > expensive option, which actually makes the whole "dangly thing"
> > > situation _worse_ than if the ports were built in, and reqiuring
> > > another, small, easy-to-misplace item instead.
>
> > You would rather force everybody to pay for USB/SD support, including
> > those who don't want and may never need it, because you want it. Why
> > should everybody pay for what you want?
>
> I predominantly use CF.  So since the argument is to be a "Photo Do
> All", you have to add a CF slot too.
>
> BTW, my brother uses some lousy Olympus cameras ... xD card.  Add that
> slot too.
>
> That pretty much leave's Sony's Memory Stick out in the cold.  Yup,
> one more card slot.
>
> Of course, there's also mini-SD and micro-SD .. should Apple put in
> two more ports for these, so as to avoid having introducing two tiny
> "easy to misplace" SD adaptors?
>
> Damn that slippery slope!   :-)
>
> -hh

I have a Dell monitor that has an 11-1 card reader. My laptop 13-1
card reader. reads them all except CF cards I believe. Only my
Prosumer Canon 50D uses it though. Even my new 7D has gone SDHC.

Quit making excuses for Apple bilking you.