From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-05-04 21:37:31 +0100, Woody said:

> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Does browser spoofing just change the UA string, or does it change the
>> Javascript-accessible object behaviours?
>
> Just the string

So if you were able to run a bit of Javascript it ought to be possible
to really accurately determine what browser was *actually* being used
instead of just claimed.
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Chris

From: Woody on
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:

> On 2010-05-04 21:37:31 +0100, Woody said:
>
> > Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Does browser spoofing just change the UA string, or does it change the
> >> Javascript-accessible object behaviours?
> >
> > Just the string
>
> So if you were able to run a bit of Javascript it ought to be possible
> to really accurately determine what browser was *actually* being used
> instead of just claimed.

You should be able to, yes. In fact you can probaby establish if it is
IE by the way it loads CSS.


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Woody

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From: zoara on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 3 May 2010 20:28:48 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody)
> > wrote:
> > > I will take some pics though so you can see.
> >
> > Cheers.
>
> ok, here goes:
>
> The screen is physically the same size, although the nokia has a
> higher
> resolution.
>
> <http://skitch.com/woody/db2s6/size>
>
> which does give it quite fine resolution for text etc
>
> <http://skitch.com/woody/db2ae/text>

That's a particularly jarring font. It *is* very crisp though.

Does the n810 often have horizontal scrollbars on text?

> So you can see that the resolution of the nokia
>
> <http://skitch.com/woody/db2as/nokia-res>
>
> is noticably higher when zoomed in than the iphone
>
> <http://skitch.com/woody/db2a4/iphone-res>

That's surely not to the same scale? The iPhone does have a more
noticeable pixel grid, which I can make out in normal use sometimes. The
N810 seems - from your photos - not to have such a visible grid.

-z-

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From: Pd on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> > <http://skitch.com/woody/db2ae/text>
>
> That's a particularly jarring font. It *is* very crisp though.

I think it's quite nice for a mono-space. Not too different from Monaco.

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Pd
From: Woody on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 3 May 2010 20:28:48 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody)
> > > wrote:
> > > > I will take some pics though so you can see.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> >
> > ok, here goes:
> >
> > The screen is physically the same size, although the nokia has a
> > higher
> > resolution.
> >
> > <http://skitch.com/woody/db2s6/size>
> >
> > which does give it quite fine resolution for text etc
> >
> > <http://skitch.com/woody/db2ae/text>
>
> That's a particularly jarring font. It *is* very crisp though.
>
> Does the n810 often have horizontal scrollbars on text?

On web pages, yes, almost always.
It is 800 pixels across the screen, so less then 700 when you take the
scroll bars out and the side panel. People design web pages for over
1024.

>
> > So you can see that the resolution of the nokia
> >
> > <http://skitch.com/woody/db2as/nokia-res>
> >
> > is noticably higher when zoomed in than the iphone
> >
> > <http://skitch.com/woody/db2a4/iphone-res>
>
> That's surely not to the same scale?

Its not far out - it is about 3cm on the iPhone and 4cm of screen on the
nokia.

> The iPhone does have a more
> noticeable pixel grid, which I can make out in normal use sometimes. The
> N810 seems - from your photos - not to have such a visible grid.

It doesn't. With my eyes I can't actually see the grid on the nokia and
can on the iPhone. It is actually less noticable than you would think
due to better icon design on the iPhone, but it would be nice if they
upped it a bit.

--
Woody