From: D. Spencer Hines on
"Neil" <nrgins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> And I understand what you're saying about my previous confusion about the
> synchronization settings. No problem there.

His confusion continues. It's certainly not over.

> OK, I think I misunderstood your point. I think I read your post too
> quickly.

Yep...

There he goes again.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor


From: D. Spencer Hines on
And there he goes AGAIN...

"Confused"...

"Guess I wasn't clear"...

You bet.

He suffers from a severe case of Fog on the Brain.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Neil" <nrgins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the reply. One thing I'm confused about is this: you said that
> you haven't experienced the behavior I'm talking about. But you delete
> your messages every five days, if not sooner. My downloaded messages stay
> at least 5 days. They just eventually get deleted, usually after a few
> weeks. So if you're not keeping your messages for several weeks, then
> that's a different situation. Guess I wasn't clear about how long my
> messages were staying. Sorry.


From: NormanM on
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:19:29 -0600, Neil wrote:

>> Sorry. My fingers typed other than my intentions. Google does not publish
>> an Operating System; which is the core business of Microsoft.

> Microsoft's core businesses are Windows and Office. Losing Office would be a
> very big deal to them. So important is Office that years ago they invested
> in Apple Computer, their chief OS rival, to ensure that Apple didn't go
> under, most likely because of all of the Apple Office users.

As I said, I use OpenOffice. Microsoft already faces competition in that
field, and has for a long time.

>> I am not really interested in web-based OSes. Those would require an
>> always on Internet connection. In the event that my Internet connection
>> dies (and it happens about once a month, whether I like it, or not), my
>> web-based OS would be useless; my computer nothing more than an expensive
>> doorstop. I'll stick to a disk-based OS, thank you.

> You're completely mistaken here.
>
> First, Chrome (or IE, or Firefox) is not "web-based." You can't have a
> web-based browser that's used for browsing the web! The browser is itself
> your window to the web. All browsers (including Chrome) are PC-based, and
> are installed on the hard drive.

Which requires an Operating System to run.

> Second, I did note that Google is giving their web-based applications an
> offline mode, so that you can use them when there's no Internet connection.
> That takes care of our "doorstop" scenario.

Assuming you really want to use Google. I don't. They are no better than
Microsoft WRT to concerns for your privacy.

> Third, the distinction between online and offline is growing fainter every
> day. Search tools routinely search your desktop or online resources or both.
> Windows Explorer works with your computer's file system; but can also be
> used for FTP access; etc. So the online world is more and more being seen as
> an extension of the offline world, even though one might not always be
> available to go online.

Maybe I am just a Luddite, but I stayed away from WebTV for the very reason
that I do make a distinction between "offline" and "online". The end of this
path is having one's brain wired with implants for a "virtual online"
experience. No thanks.

There is the "Web", and there is the "Internet". The two are not the same. I
don't want my 'Fridge taking with some government agency about its contents.
I don't want my thermostat talking with some government agency about the
household temperatures. I don't want my car talking with some government
agency about my driving patterns. I don't want to live in an intrusive
world, where I am under a microscope. If this is the direction which Google
is going, I don't want Google Apps.

> So your concerns about a "web-based OS" are misguided. If Chrome eventually
> did evolve into an OS, it would be hard-drive based, would work with both
> online and offline elements, and would seamlessly connect the two. And, just
> as Windows provided support for DOS apps (and still does), so the OS would
> provide support for legacy Windows apps.

I'll take Linux, over a Google OS, any day of the week.

> Whether or not this will happen remains to be seen. I'm just saying that I
> believe that that's the direction Google is planning on going in with their
> new browser. But one thing's for sure: if it does happen, given Google's
> tendency to completely outdo the competition when it develops things, it's
> doubtful that you'll be wanting to stick with Windows 2015 (or whatever
> version they have out then), any more than DOS users wanted to stay with DOS
> when Windows 3.0 came out.

Indeed. The Penguin is a very attractive alternative.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
From: NormanM on
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:14:07 -0600, Neil wrote:

> I'm using OE6 as my newsgroup reader. I keep losing my already-downloaded
> headings from newsgroups. Very frustrating. I want to keep them.
>
> Under Options, Maintenance, I have every box UNCHECKED, and all my
> subscribed newsgroups are set to Don't Synchronize. What am I doing wrong?
> How can I keep OE from periodically deleting my downloaded headers?

MS Outlook Express was designed as an "online newsreader". What you need is
an "offline newsreader".

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
From: D. Spencer Hines on
> MS Outlook Express was designed as an "online newsreader". What you need
> is an "offline newsreader".

Indeed...

Such as Forte Agent.

But he is far too thick to realize that.

So he has to be repeatedly hit upside the head with a 2 by 4.

D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

"NormanM" <spammers.are(a)immoral.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:14:07 -0600, Neil wrote:
>
>> I'm using OE6 as my newsgroup reader. I keep losing my already-downloaded
>> headings from newsgroups. Very frustrating. I want to keep them.
>>
>> Under Options, Maintenance, I have every box UNCHECKED, and all my
>> subscribed newsgroups are set to Don't Synchronize. What am I doing
>> wrong?
>> How can I keep OE from periodically deleting my downloaded headers?
>
> MS Outlook Express was designed as an "online newsreader". What you need
> is an "offline newsreader".


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