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From: Neil on 30 Jan 2009 01:14 I'm using OE6 as my newsgroup reader. I keep losing my already-downloaded headings from newsgroups. Very frustrating. I want to keep them. Under Options, Maintenance, I have every box UNCHECKED, and all my subscribed newsgroups are set to Don't Synchronize. What am I doing wrong? How can I keep OE from periodically deleting my downloaded headers? Thanks!
From: Bruce Hagen on 30 Jan 2009 01:25 News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is different. MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only for a few days. If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder. Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages and Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else. -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express Imperial Beach, CA "Neil" <nrgins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:cVwgl.19924$ZP4.7479(a)nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com... > I'm using OE6 as my newsgroup reader. I keep losing my already-downloaded > headings from newsgroups. Very frustrating. I want to keep them. > > Under Options, Maintenance, I have every box UNCHECKED, and all my > subscribed newsgroups are set to Don't Synchronize. What am I doing wrong? > How can I keep OE from periodically deleting my downloaded headers? > > Thanks! >
From: VanguardLH on 30 Jan 2009 02:18 Bruce Hagen wrote: > News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is different. > MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only for > a few days. > > If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder. > > Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages and > Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else. The reason regarding Bruce's reply is that OE remains in sync with the NNTP server. If the NNTP server expires and drops a post then so, too, will OE. You need to move items out of the newsgroups folder in OE if you don't want them to get synchronized (i.e., deleted in OE after the NNTP server deleted them).
From: Neil on 30 Jan 2009 05:29 "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message news:glu9j6$ph5$1(a)news.motzarella.org... > Bruce Hagen wrote: > >> News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is >> different. >> MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only >> for >> a few days. >> >> If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder. >> >> Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages >> and >> Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else. > > The reason regarding Bruce's reply is that OE remains in sync with the > NNTP server. If the NNTP server expires and drops a post then so, too, > will OE. You need to move items out of the newsgroups folder in OE if > you don't want them to get synchronized (i.e., deleted in OE after the > NNTP server deleted them). Again, I have my synchronization settings set to "No synchronization." And I remember my headers used to stay indefinitely. Once a header was downloaded, it would just stay in the folder. If I hadn't gotten the body of a message, and it scrolled off the server, then, yeah, it was too late (and when I tried to get that expired text, OE would show the header in strikethrough text; but the header would still be there). So what's the point of having a synchronization setting of "no synchronization" if OE is going to synchronize anyway? Doesn't make sense. And, like I said, didn't used to be that way. I remember a point where OE would keep downloaded headers indefinitely. Also, what's the point of having a "Delete news messages X days after being downloaded" if OE is just going to delete them anyway, regardless of the setting. Again, doesn't make sense.
From: Ron Sommer on 30 Jan 2009 09:21
"Neil" <nrgins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:mEAgl.16535$c45.7806(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... > > "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message > news:glu9j6$ph5$1(a)news.motzarella.org... >> Bruce Hagen wrote: >> >>> News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is >>> different. >>> MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only >>> for >>> a few days. >>> >>> If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder. >>> >>> Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages >>> and >>> Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else. >> >> The reason regarding Bruce's reply is that OE remains in sync with the >> NNTP server. If the NNTP server expires and drops a post then so, too, >> will OE. You need to move items out of the newsgroups folder in OE if >> you don't want them to get synchronized (i.e., deleted in OE after the >> NNTP server deleted them). > > Again, I have my synchronization settings set to "No synchronization." And > I remember my headers used to stay indefinitely. Once a header was > downloaded, it would just stay in the folder. If I hadn't gotten the body > of a message, and it scrolled off the server, then, yeah, it was too late > (and when I tried to get that expired text, OE would show the header in > strikethrough text; but the header would still be there). > > So what's the point of having a synchronization setting of "no > synchronization" if OE is going to synchronize anyway? Doesn't make sense. > And, like I said, didn't used to be that way. I remember a point where OE > would keep downloaded headers indefinitely. > > Also, what's the point of having a "Delete news messages X days after > being downloaded" if OE is just going to delete them anyway, regardless of > the setting. Again, doesn't make sense. > > A newsgroup is synchronized when you view the newsgroup if you are online. Old messages will be removed when they expire from the server. The synchronization settings apply to downloading of messages, not to the removal of old messages. If you do not want messages from a particular folder or newsgroup to be downloaded, click Don't Synchronize. The only way to keep old messages is to move them to a user created folder. -- Ronald Sommer |