From: Neil on
I'm using OE6 as my newsgroup reader. I keep losing my already-downloaded
headings from newsgroups. Very frustrating. I want to keep them.

Under Options, Maintenance, I have every box UNCHECKED, and all my
subscribed newsgroups are set to Don't Synchronize. What am I doing wrong?
How can I keep OE from periodically deleting my downloaded headers?

Thanks!


From: Bruce Hagen on
News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is different.
MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only for
a few days.

If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder.

Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages and
Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Neil" <nrgins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cVwgl.19924$ZP4.7479(a)nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
> I'm using OE6 as my newsgroup reader. I keep losing my already-downloaded
> headings from newsgroups. Very frustrating. I want to keep them.
>
> Under Options, Maintenance, I have every box UNCHECKED, and all my
> subscribed newsgroups are set to Don't Synchronize. What am I doing wrong?
> How can I keep OE from periodically deleting my downloaded headers?
>
> Thanks!
>

From: VanguardLH on
Bruce Hagen wrote:

> News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is different.
> MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only for
> a few days.
>
> If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder.
>
> Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages and
> Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else.

The reason regarding Bruce's reply is that OE remains in sync with the
NNTP server. If the NNTP server expires and drops a post then so, too,
will OE. You need to move items out of the newsgroups folder in OE if
you don't want them to get synchronized (i.e., deleted in OE after the
NNTP server deleted them).
From: Neil on

"VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
>> News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is
>> different.
>> MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only
>> for
>> a few days.
>>
>> If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder.
>>
>> Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages
>> and
>> Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else.
>
> The reason regarding Bruce's reply is that OE remains in sync with the
> NNTP server. If the NNTP server expires and drops a post then so, too,
> will OE. You need to move items out of the newsgroups folder in OE if
> you don't want them to get synchronized (i.e., deleted in OE after the
> NNTP server deleted them).

Again, I have my synchronization settings set to "No synchronization." And I
remember my headers used to stay indefinitely. Once a header was downloaded,
it would just stay in the folder. If I hadn't gotten the body of a message,
and it scrolled off the server, then, yeah, it was too late (and when I
tried to get that expired text, OE would show the header in strikethrough
text; but the header would still be there).

So what's the point of having a synchronization setting of "no
synchronization" if OE is going to synchronize anyway? Doesn't make sense.
And, like I said, didn't used to be that way. I remember a point where OE
would keep downloaded headers indefinitely.

Also, what's the point of having a "Delete news messages X days after being
downloaded" if OE is just going to delete them anyway, regardless of the
setting. Again, doesn't make sense.


From: Ron Sommer on


"Neil" <nrgins(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message
> news:glu9j6$ph5$1(a)news.motzarella.org...
>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> News servers only keep posts for a period of time. Each server is
>>> different.
>>> MSNews keeps them for 90 days. Some servers keep them longer, some only
>>> for
>>> a few days.
>>>
>>> If you want to keep posts indefinitely, copy them to an OE local folder.
>>>
>>> Also, make sure that in View | Current View, you have Show All Messages
>>> and
>>> Group messages By Conversation checked and nothing else.
>>
>> The reason regarding Bruce's reply is that OE remains in sync with the
>> NNTP server. If the NNTP server expires and drops a post then so, too,
>> will OE. You need to move items out of the newsgroups folder in OE if
>> you don't want them to get synchronized (i.e., deleted in OE after the
>> NNTP server deleted them).
>
> Again, I have my synchronization settings set to "No synchronization." And
> I remember my headers used to stay indefinitely. Once a header was
> downloaded, it would just stay in the folder. If I hadn't gotten the body
> of a message, and it scrolled off the server, then, yeah, it was too late
> (and when I tried to get that expired text, OE would show the header in
> strikethrough text; but the header would still be there).
>
> So what's the point of having a synchronization setting of "no
> synchronization" if OE is going to synchronize anyway? Doesn't make sense.
> And, like I said, didn't used to be that way. I remember a point where OE
> would keep downloaded headers indefinitely.
>
> Also, what's the point of having a "Delete news messages X days after
> being downloaded" if OE is just going to delete them anyway, regardless of
> the setting. Again, doesn't make sense.
>
>
A newsgroup is synchronized when you view the newsgroup if you are online.
Old messages will be removed when they expire from the server.
The synchronization settings apply to downloading of messages, not to the
removal of old messages.
If you do not want messages from a particular folder or newsgroup to be
downloaded, click Don't Synchronize.
The only way to keep old messages is to move them to a user created folder.
--
Ronald Sommer



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