From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 26-02-2010 15:32, DuncanIdaho wrote:
> Oh my goodness what has been happening.
>
> I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back
> to the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've
> bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it.
>
> Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out
> what this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java.

Oracle paid 7.4 billion dollar for SUN. You can count on Larry wanting
something for that money. They want to make money on what they bought
not throw it away.

A very huge portion of Oracle's income is based on Java (the BEA stuff,
their eBusiness suite etc.). Obviously they want to continue making
money on that.

The chance of Oracle dumping Java within the next 5 years is a
big fat zero.

Arne
From: Lew on
Roedy Green wrote:
> MySQL competes with Oracle's database products.

For certain extremely weak values of "compete".

--
Lew
From: Robert Klemme on
On 02/27/2010 04:46 AM, Lew wrote:
> Roedy Green wrote:
>> MySQL competes with Oracle's database products.
>
> For certain extremely weak values of "compete".

For Oracle the more serious threat in Open Source land seems to be
PostgreSQL. From what I am hearing MySQL isn't ready for large scale
deployments - maybe as MySQL Enterprise but that is a special
subscription that has to be paid for. When looking at MySQL Enterprise
Query Analyzer it becomes obvious that MySQL still has a long way to go
to provide similar introspection capabilities as Oracle, SQL Server and
other products provide.

Cheers

robert

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From: Robert Klemme on
On 02/26/2010 11:41 PM, Roedy Green wrote:

> Sun often behaved in ways very unlike the way corporations usually
> behave, e.g. sticking it to Microsoft, providing so much free,
> avoiding lock in... It is a bit much to expect any new owner to be
> similarly eccentric, much as I mourn the loss.

What exactly did we loose so far? I am not aware of any loss that
affects my work or other aspects of my life caused by this deal.

Cheers

robert

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From: markspace on
Stefan Ram wrote:
> Robert Klemme <shortcutter(a)googlemail.com> writes:
>> What exactly did we loose so far? I am not aware of any loss that
>> affects my work or other aspects of my life caused by this deal.
>
> Two remarks regarding English:
>
> - it should be �... did we lose so far ...� and
> - �out-of-the-loop developer�,
>
> because the intended reading is ((out of the loop) developer)
> not (out of the (loop developer)).
>


I dunno. Some days I think there's lots of loopy developers here.