OMG Oracle/Sun ... out of the loop developer panicking
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From: DuncanIdaho on 26 Feb 2010 15:32 Oh my goodness what has been happening. I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back to the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out what this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. Idaho
From: markspace on 26 Feb 2010 16:02 DuncanIdaho wrote: > Oh my goodness what has been happening. > > I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back > to the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've > bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. > > Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out > what this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. > > Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. > > Idaho Sun's been for sale for effectively at least a year or so, probably longer (ever since the dot-com implosion). Overall I think Oracle is a better fit for Sun than many other possibilities. Oracle is heavily invested in Sun's Java on their big servers, one reason Oracle bought Sun. So far, Oracle has made good decisions. Java will be the center piece of their purchase, NetBeans will continue to be supported. Kenia is going away (no loss).
From: Robert Klemme on 26 Feb 2010 16:33 On 02/26/2010 09:32 PM, DuncanIdaho wrote: > Oh my goodness what has been happening. > > I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back > to the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've > bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. Congrats to the long vacation. :-) > Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out > what this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. Not sure how serious you are about the panic, but panic is rarely a source of good advice. I don't think there is reason to panic at all. Even if Oracle were going to do something bad to Java (which they certainly won't - Oracle can't be stupid - otherwise they would not have earned the money for buying companies like we are buying groceries), this would be a slow change. Btw, if Oracle would kill off Java, they would help their most serious enemy: Microsoft. I can't believe that we are going to see this happen - at least as long as Larry is in charge. > Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. A good scotch once in a while is certainly a good thing to have. :-) Btw, what's your preferred brand? Kind regards robert -- remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/
From: Roedy Green on 26 Feb 2010 17:41 On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:33:20 +0100, Robert Klemme <shortcutter(a)googlemail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : > >Not sure how serious you are about the panic, but panic is rarely a >source of good advice. I don't think there is reason to panic at all. >Even if Oracle were going to do something bad to Java (which they >certainly won't - Oracle can't be stupid Oracle's pattern is not to destroy good products, but to gradually up the fees for their use after users are locked in. MySQL competes with Oracle's database products. I would imagine they might attempt to create a smooth migration path from MySQL to Oracle, and hobble MySQL so that it could only be used for small projects. That way MySQL becomes the farm team for the expensive products. If Oracle behaves too badly on Java, IBM would pick up the ball, and Oracle would have wasted its money. Sun often behaved in ways very unlike the way corporations usually behave, e.g. sticking it to Microsoft, providing so much free, avoiding lock in... It is a bit much to expect any new owner to be similarly eccentric, much as I mourn the loss. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. ~ Douglas Adams (born: 1952-03-11 died: 2001-05-11 at age: 49)
From: Arne Vajhøj on 26 Feb 2010 20:15
On 26-02-2010 17:41, Roedy Green wrote: > MySQL competes with Oracle's database products. I would imagine they > might attempt to create a smooth migration path from MySQL to Oracle, > and hobble MySQL so that it could only be used for small projects. > That way MySQL becomes the farm team for the expensive products. You forget that MySQL is open source. They can not really restrict the features of MySQL - or to be more precise they can not prevent other from distributing an unrestricted version of MySQL. Arne |