OMG Oracle/Sun ... out of the loop developer panicking
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From: Roedy Green on 28 Feb 2010 16:29 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:02:39 +0100, Robert Klemme <shortcutter(a)googlemail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >What exactly did we loose so far? I am not aware of any loss that >affects my work or other aspects of my life caused by this deal. Have a look http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdkreleasedates.html Originally we had a major release each year. We have not had one since 2006-12. This would be a part of Sun's financial trouble leading to its sale. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. ~ Douglas Adams (born: 1952-03-11 died: 2001-05-11 at age: 49)
From: DuncanIdaho on 28 Feb 2010 17:02 Lew wrote: > DuncanIdaho wrote: >> Well. thank's for all your comments. I've always used the development >> kits available from the apparently now defunct http://java.sun.com which > > By what stretch of the imagination can you describe that site as defunct? > >> now appears as an Oracle branded web site. > > Isn't "now appears" the exact opposite of "defunct"? Isn't the presence > of material timestamped within the last few days countervailing > evidence? Announcements of upcoming events likewise? > > In fact, the presence of the Oracle brand on the site is /prima facie/ > evidence that it isn't defunct. > > Perhaps you use a different dictionary from the rest of us? > Ah, the dictionary man, hello again, well thanks for putting me straight. Unlike you however I don't spend my time with my head up my .... er, in a dictionary. My wife thinks you may have a little too much time on your hands, I think she may be right. Very funny though, most amusing. Thanks again Idaho
From: Lew on 28 Feb 2010 17:56 Lew wrote: >> Perhaps you use a different dictionary from the rest of us? DuncanIdaho wrote: > Ah, the dictionary man, hello again, well thanks for putting me > straight. Unlike you however I don't spend my time with my head up my > ... er, in a dictionary. My wife thinks you may have a little too much > time on your hands, I think she may be right. That's not what she told me last night at the motel. > Very funny though, most amusing. Can't refute the point, so you attack the man? -- Lew
From: Arne Vajhøj on 28 Feb 2010 18:45 On 28-02-2010 15:19, DuncanIdaho wrote: > Well. thank's for all your comments. I've always used the development > kits available from the apparently now defunct http://java.sun.com which > now appears as an Oracle branded web site. Ofcourse. When Oracle buys SUN then they obviously rebrand all the SUN web sites, That is to be expected. > Anyway as for IBM, I remember using some > ghastly piece of IBM IDE nastiness whose name I have expunged from my > memory forever. It was an explosion of green and grey with millions of > windows and the most appalling spaghetti code nonsense you ever have > seen ... Visual Age for Java 3.5 and 4.0 is on the top-10-hate-list of many developers. > and if I ever had to 'migrate' to .NET I think I'd drown myself It is not that bad. You will find a lot of the stuff very familiar. Arne
From: Arne Vajhøj on 28 Feb 2010 18:45
On 28-02-2010 16:29, Roedy Green wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:02:39 +0100, Robert Klemme > <shortcutter(a)googlemail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted > someone who said : >> What exactly did we loose so far? I am not aware of any loss that >> affects my work or other aspects of my life caused by this deal. > > Have a look http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdkreleasedates.html > > Originally we had a major release each year. We have not had one since > 2006-12. This would be a part of Sun's financial trouble leading to > its sale. It is not that unusual to see the interval between releases increase in the second decade compared to the first decade for a technology. Arne |