OMG Oracle/Sun ... out of the loop developer panicking
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From: BGB / cr88192 on 27 Feb 2010 13:20 "DuncanIdaho" <Duncan.Idaho2008(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:heednY9dA5xMshXWnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Oh my goodness what has been happening. > > I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back to > the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've > bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. > > Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out what > this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. > > Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. > even if, by some chance, Sun's Java implementation died (or became expensive), it is unlikely that open-source implementations could be stopped... after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... BTW: I don't know if anyone will find this interesting, but a recent thing I haved started on a public-domain implementation of the class library for my own uses (don't know how far I will get with this though). for now, it is being based on the Java 1.0 API, ... decided not to say much more on it at the moment (may consider a new thread if relevant).
From: Arne Vajhøj on 27 Feb 2010 16:18 On 27-02-2010 13:20, BGB / cr88192 wrote: > "DuncanIdaho"<Duncan.Idaho2008(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:heednY9dA5xMshXWnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> Oh my goodness what has been happening. >> >> I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back to >> the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've >> bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. >> >> Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out what >> this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. >> >> Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. >> > > even if, by some chance, Sun's Java implementation died (or became > expensive), it is unlikely that open-source implementations could be > stopped... > > after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... And SUN Java. OpenJDK is (mostly) SUN Java as open source. Arne
From: BGB / cr88192 on 27 Feb 2010 16:33 "Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message news:4b898c1a$0$274$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk... > On 27-02-2010 13:20, BGB / cr88192 wrote: >> "DuncanIdaho"<Duncan.Idaho2008(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >> news:heednY9dA5xMshXWnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> Oh my goodness what has been happening. >>> >>> I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back >>> to >>> the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've >>> bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. >>> >>> Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out >>> what >>> this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. >>> >>> Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. >>> >> >> even if, by some chance, Sun's Java implementation died (or became >> expensive), it is unlikely that open-source implementations could be >> stopped... >> >> after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... > > And SUN Java. > > OpenJDK is (mostly) SUN Java as open source. > granted, yes, but I was still assuming if Sun's implementation died, which could also be taken to imply if OpenJDK just so happened to disappear as well... in any case though, it is all unlikely... > Arne
From: Steve Sobol on 27 Feb 2010 17:43 In article <heednY9dA5xMshXWnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d(a)bt.com>, Duncan.Idaho2008 @googlemail.com says... > > Oh my goodness what has been happening. > > I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back > to the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've > bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. > > Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out > what this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. > > Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. > > Idaho Really, aside from the fact that Larry Ellison is an arrogant jerkoff who thinks all of his products are perfect... remember his marketing campaign from a few years back? "Can't break it. Can't break in" while people were actively finding exploits in his database software... Aside from that, as other people have mentioned, Sun is a good fit for Oracle. I would have been OK with IBM buying them too, as IBM also has invested heavily in Java, and has contributed a fair amount of code back to the community. As long as Microsoft didn't buy them, I'm not going to worry too much. -- Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: Steve Sobol on 27 Feb 2010 17:44
In article <o6jgo5dq3k1t3psn091qsqon2b5ns4cdd0(a)4ax.com>, see_website(a)mindprod.com.invalid says... > Oracle's pattern is not to destroy good products, but to gradually up > the fees for their use after users are locked in. This is a good point. However, I have two counterpoints to make: ** GNU Classpath exists ** OpenJDK exists -- Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA sjsobol(a)JustThe.net |