OMG Oracle/Sun ... out of the loop developer panicking
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From: Lew on 27 Feb 2010 18:30 BGB / cr88192 wrote: >>> after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> And SUN Java. >> >> OpenJDK is (mostly) SUN Java as open source. BGB / cr88192 wrote: > granted, yes, but I was still assuming if Sun's implementation died, which > could also be taken to imply if OpenJDK just so happened to disappear as > well... > > in any case though, it is all unlikely... I have yet to hear of GCJ working well. It certainly hasn't for me. I wonder if everyone who keeps recommending it has actually tried it. -- Lew
From: Arne Vajhøj on 27 Feb 2010 18:38 On 27-02-2010 16:33, BGB / cr88192 wrote: > "Arne Vajh�j"<arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message > news:4b898c1a$0$274$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk... >> On 27-02-2010 13:20, BGB / cr88192 wrote: >>> "DuncanIdaho"<Duncan.Idaho2008(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message >>> news:heednY9dA5xMshXWnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>> Oh my goodness what has been happening. >>>> >>>> I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back >>>> to >>>> the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've >>>> bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. >>>> >>>> Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out >>>> what >>>> this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. >>>> >>>> Thanks now where's the scotch, think I need a drink. >>> >>> even if, by some chance, Sun's Java implementation died (or became >>> expensive), it is unlikely that open-source implementations could be >>> stopped... >>> >>> after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... >> >> And SUN Java. >> >> OpenJDK is (mostly) SUN Java as open source. > > granted, yes, but I was still assuming if Sun's implementation died, which > could also be taken to imply if OpenJDK just so happened to disappear as > well... The license ensure that: - everyone that has already downloaded the source can distribute it - everyone that has download a binary can request the source (if Oracle has the authority to pull the project, then they also have the obligation to meet the license requirements) Arne
From: Lew on 27 Feb 2010 19:25 DuncanIdaho wrote: >> Oh my goodness what has been happening. OMG, the fear-mongering! >> I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back >> to the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've >> bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. >> >> Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out comp.lang.java.programmer would be a good one. >> what this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. BGB / cr88192 wrote: >>>> after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> And SUN Java. >>> >>> OpenJDK is (mostly) SUN Java as open source. BGB / cr88192 wrote: >> granted, yes, but I was still assuming if Sun's implementation died, >> which >> could also be taken to imply if OpenJDK just so happened to disappear as >> well... OMG, the fear-mongering! Arne Vajhøj wrote: > The license ensure that: > - everyone that has already downloaded the source can distribute it > - everyone that has download a binary can request the source (if Oracle > has the authority to pull the project, then they also have the > obligation to meet the license requirements) No one should let reason, evidence or obvious truth get in the way of a good panic. -- Lew
From: Arne Vajhøj on 27 Feb 2010 19:34 On 27-02-2010 18:30, Lew wrote: > BGB / cr88192 wrote: >>>> after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... > > Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> And SUN Java. >>> >>> OpenJDK is (mostly) SUN Java as open source. > > BGB / cr88192 wrote: >> granted, yes, but I was still assuming if Sun's implementation died, >> which could also be taken to imply if OpenJDK just so happened to >> disappear as well... >> >> in any case though, it is all unlikely... > > I have yet to hear of GCJ working well. It certainly hasn't for me. I > wonder if everyone who keeps recommending it has actually tried it. I did try several years ago and it was very crappy. But from what I hear, then it is OK today. But unless one is required to use software packages that start with G, then I can not see much reason to not pick SUN Java/OpenJDK that is certified last version of Java. Arne
From: BGB / cr88192 on 27 Feb 2010 19:56
"Lew" <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message news:hmcd6c$mno$1(a)news.albasani.net... > DuncanIdaho wrote: >>> Oh my goodness what has been happening. > > OMG, the fear-mongering! > >>> I've been 'out of the loop' since before Christmas 2009. Just got back >>> to the UK and found an email in my inbox from Oracle telling me they've >>> bought Sun ... catastrophe ... or is it. >>> >>> Can anyone point me to any discussion groups ... I need to figure out > > comp.lang.java.programmer would be a good one. > >>> what this means to my huge (many years) time investment in Java. > > BGB / cr88192 wrote: >>>>> after all, there is Kaffe, Harmony, GCJ, ... > > Arne Vajh�j wrote: >>>> And SUN Java. >>>> >>>> OpenJDK is (mostly) SUN Java as open source. > > BGB / cr88192 wrote: >>> granted, yes, but I was still assuming if Sun's implementation died, >>> which >>> could also be taken to imply if OpenJDK just so happened to disappear as >>> well... > > OMG, the fear-mongering! > IMO, it would only be "fear mongering" if the event described actually had some reasonable probability of happening. everyone is probably fairly safe as the particular scenario is somewhat unlikely... > Arne Vajh�j wrote: >> The license ensure that: >> - everyone that has already downloaded the source can distribute it >> - everyone that has download a binary can request the source (if Oracle >> has the authority to pull the project, then they also have the >> obligation to meet the license requirements) > > No one should let reason, evidence or obvious truth get in the way of a > good panic. > hmm... > -- > Lew |