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From: krw on 31 Oct 2009 13:50 On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >krw wrote: >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >> >> > John Larkin wrote: >> >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >> >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, John Larkin wrote: > >> >> >> It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. >> >> >> >That ought not be allowed. The government should only allow people to >> >> >eat at certain approved restaurants, and dictate and carefully control >> >> >what those restaurants serve, the portion sizes that will be allowed-- >> >> >according to each person's needs vis-a-vis calories, obesity, health >> >> >factors, etc.--the prices that can be charged, adjusted for each >> >> >person's ability to pay, and so forth. Violators should be fined and >> >> >jailed. >> >> >> Sounds like the ration books in Cuba. They keep everybody trim. >> >> >> John >> >> >Oh, the new health care bill covers this. Well, halfway. >> >> >http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf >> >> >See Subtitle C, sec. 2572, or just search for "restaurants" or >> >"vending". >> >> >They thought of everything. >> >> Except how to pay the debt. > > >Covered. Massive cost, paid with massive taxes, fees, penalties and >fines, and lollipops and rainbows. Nope. There isn't enough money on the planet to pay for Congress' lollipops and rainbows. >Fun noire: it's a pain to read, but you can have a lot of fun quickly >by searching the .PDF for keywords... > >punishment / coercive words >"tax" 214 hits, >"penalty" 113 hits >"fee" "59 hits >"shall" 3,424 hits > >weasel words >"fair" 24 hits >"reasonable" 73 hits >"appropriate*" 624 hits >"reduce" 73 hits > >misc. words >"Medicare" 465 hits >"race" 8 hits >"restaurant" 12 hits >"vending machine" 4 hits >"indian" 1,289 hits >"tuition" 9 hits
From: John Larkin on 31 Oct 2009 14:59 On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >krw wrote: >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >> >> > John Larkin wrote: >> >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >> >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, John Larkin wrote: > >> >> >> It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. >> >> >> >That ought not be allowed. The government should only allow people to >> >> >eat at certain approved restaurants, and dictate and carefully control >> >> >what those restaurants serve, the portion sizes that will be allowed-- >> >> >according to each person's needs vis-a-vis calories, obesity, health >> >> >factors, etc.--the prices that can be charged, adjusted for each >> >> >person's ability to pay, and so forth. Violators should be fined and >> >> >jailed. >> >> >> Sounds like the ration books in Cuba. They keep everybody trim. >> >> >> John >> >> >Oh, the new health care bill covers this. Well, halfway. >> >> >http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf >> >> >See Subtitle C, sec. 2572, or just search for "restaurants" or >> >"vending". >> >> >They thought of everything. >> >> Except how to pay the debt. > > >Covered. Massive cost, paid with massive taxes, fees, penalties and >fines, and lollipops and rainbows. Or just print the money. I wonder what are the comparative effects. Massive taxation kills business and exports productive jobs; inflation steals savings. Everything considered, printing money is probably the better of the unsavory choices. Obama and crew will no doubt do both. John
From: dagmargoodboat on 31 Oct 2009 14:27 On Oct 31, 12:50 pm, krw <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com > wrote: > > > > >krw wrote: > >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >> > John Larkin wrote: > >> >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >> >> >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, John Larkin wrote: > > >> >> >> It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. > > >> >> >That ought not be allowed. The government should only allow people to > >> >> >eat at certain approved restaurants, and dictate and carefully control > >> >> >what those restaurants serve, the portion sizes that will be allowed-- > >> >> >according to each person's needs vis-a-vis calories, obesity, health > >> >> >factors, etc.--the prices that can be charged, adjusted for each > >> >> >person's ability to pay, and so forth. Violators should be fined and > >> >> >jailed. > > >> >> Sounds like the ration books in Cuba. They keep everybody trim. > > >> >> John > > >> >Oh, the new health care bill covers this. Well, halfway. > > >> >http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf > > >> >See Subtitle C, sec. 2572, or just search for "restaurants" or > >> >"vending". > > >> >They thought of everything. > > >> Except how to pay the debt. > > >Covered. Massive cost, paid with massive taxes, fees, penalties and > >fines, and lollipops and rainbows. > > Nope. There isn't enough money on the planet to pay for Congress' > lollipops and rainbows. Clarification: "Covered" in the sense of "discussed," not "solved." If you do the numbers, most of it's to be funded with lollipops and rainbows; the rest with taxes, fines, and Medicare cuts (not necessarily in that order). The original claim that it cuts costs is contradicted on its face by the need to raise ~$1.1T in extra revenue, which, alas, still falls about 50% short of funding the thing, using their numbers & assumptions. Now Ms. Pelosi carefully only claims it's "deficit neutral," but that's not true either--it's not less than 1/3rd deficit-funded, again assuming all her assumptions. Which, one might add, are outrageous. -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: dagmargoodboat on 31 Oct 2009 14:48 John Larkin wrote: > dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >krw wrote: > >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >> > John Larkin wrote: > >> >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >> >> >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, John Larkin wrote: > > >> >> >> It's not a conspiracy; the restaurants offer what people want. > > >> >> >That ought not be allowed. The government should only allow people to > >> >> >eat at certain approved restaurants, and dictate and carefully control > >> >> >what those restaurants serve, the portion sizes that will be allowed-- > >> >> >according to each person's needs vis-a-vis calories, obesity, health > >> >> >factors, etc.--the prices that can be charged, adjusted for each > >> >> >person's ability to pay, and so forth. Violators should be fined and > >> >> >jailed. > > >> >> Sounds like the ration books in Cuba. They keep everybody trim. > > >> >> John > > >> >Oh, the new health care bill covers this. Well, halfway. > > >> >http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf > > >> >See Subtitle C, sec. 2572, or just search for "restaurants" or > >> >"vending". > > >> >They thought of everything. > > >> Except how to pay the debt. > > >Covered. Massive cost, paid with massive taxes, fees, penalties and > >fines, and lollipops and rainbows. > > Or just print the money. > > I wonder what are the comparative effects. Massive taxation kills > business and exports productive jobs; inflation steals savings. > Everything considered, printing money is probably the better of the > unsavory choices. Obama and crew will no doubt do both. > > John I analyze financial markets. Obama's turning overturning everything so quickly on so many fronts it's impossible to keep up. And huge things are being done in the shadows, behind closed doors and fuzzy curtains. Best I can tell, the deficit, unimaginable as it is, is massively understated. I'm not a monetary policy expert, but I can only see said understatement as being hugely debt-financed. Whatever the actual borrowing, it can only be "unwound" by paying back that debt--which isn't going to happen--or inflating it away. Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer jobs. I guarantee it. -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: Joerg on 31 Oct 2009 15:59
krw wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:16:46 -0700, Jim Thompson > <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:03:05 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> krw wrote: >>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:01:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> krw wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:10:28 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>> wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>>>>> I was thinking about a 6" or 8" inline fan and making my own filter. But >>>>>>> I doubt that's going to be even close in terms of required airflow. >>>>>> I doubt it. Any filter worth a damn is going to be big. >>>>>> >>>>> I know. That's why I was hoping to find a decent integrated unit. Cut >>>>> hole, put in, wire up, connect large duct. But nope :-( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> BTW, I wouldn't have one of these beasts here in AL. Too humid. >>>>> Very different out here. Summers are typically bone-dry. Not quite like >>>>> Arizona but almost. Occasionally a sea breeze wafts in but that cools us >>>>> down so no need for fancy cooling schemes when that happens. >>>> Most use heat pumps year round here. We haven't had the house open >>>> more than a few days so far this fall. It was quite warm late this >>>> fall and it's been raining since. Last year was beautiful this time >>>> of year. This year, not so much. >>> >>> Heat pumps are a no-no for us. PG&E has the monopoly and once you get >>> above baseline (with a heat pump you will) they really sock it to you. > > Beats the alternative. > Not really. The only sensible alternative is to get away from monopolies. So we now heat with wood. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |