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From: »Q« on 12 Jan 2010 22:46 In <news:703b8da3f98cc9b2ddbcecbd3570ab07(a)aracari.org>, hummingbird <hummingbírd(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: > 'whome?' wrote thus: > > >On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:44:12 +0000, hummingbird > ><hummingbírd(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: > > > >>'whome?' wrote thus: > >>>I've used FF for years, and never knew it had Private Browsing. > >>>IT is a check box in Options | Privacy. I use sandboxie just for > >>>this purpose. Also, so web sites won't hit me with a drive by > >>>download. > >> > >>Afaik that checkbox in Options tells FF to dump its history when > >>you close it down. It doesn't allow you to surf anonymously. > > > >Who said you could use the web anonymously? > > Why else would you want a browser that (in your own words) > allows you to indulge in "Private Browsing"? Private != anonymous. See <http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Private+Browsing> if you're actually interested in private browsing mode in Fx. > >If you use Tor or whatever, there is an IP address at each end. > > Who's? First base. > >There is no such thing as anonynous web usage. > > define "anonynous web usage". Whose?
From: JB on 13 Jan 2010 11:56 whome? wrote: > Who said you could use the web anonymously? If you use Tor or > whatever, there is an IP address at each end. There is no such thing > as anonynous web usage. Wrong. Tor does indeed provide hard anonymity. That anonymity comes from it being mathematically unfeasible for *anyone* to collate an IP on one side of the Tor network with an IP on the other. Yes, both are visible to casual observers, but it's impossible to know that the IP on the exit side of Tor is being used by any given user at their IP address on the entry side. Multiple layers of strong, public key encryption see to that.
From: JB on 13 Jan 2010 12:05 hummingbird wrote: > >Who said you could use the web anonymously? > > Why else would you want a browser that (in your own words) > allows you to indulge in "Private Browsing"? You need to learn the difference between privacy and anonymity. The distinction will save you much confusion down the road. Privacy is the relationship you have with your doctor. He or she knows all your secrets, but keeps them to themselves. Anonymity is standing behind a closed door and shouting in a disguised voice... "I have a strange rash that won't go away!". Everyone withing earshot knows your secrets, but can't know that they're *your* secrets. > >If you use Tor or whatever, there is an IP address at each end. > > Who's? A tor exit node's on one end, and the users actual IP address on the other. > > >There is no such thing as anonynous web usage. > > define "anonynous web usage". Done, for your benefit, above. :)
From: za kAT on 13 Jan 2010 12:28 On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:05:17 -0500, JB wrote: > You need to learn the difference between privacy and anonymity. The > distinction will save you much confusion down the road. > > Privacy is the relationship you have with your doctor. He or she > knows all your secrets, but keeps them to themselves. > > Anonymity is standing behind a closed door and shouting in a > disguised voice... "I have a strange rash that won't go away!". > Everyone withing earshot knows your secrets, but can't know that > they're *your* secrets. Excellent analogy, thanks. -- za kAT
From: Franklin on 13 Jan 2010 12:37
hummingbird wrote: > 'whome?' wrote thus: > >>On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:44:12 +0000, hummingbird >><hummingb�rd(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: >> >>>'whome?' wrote thus: >>> >>>>On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:22:10 -0800, Craig <netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 01/11/2010 01:45 PM, Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>> Craig<netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in news:hig4t2$ibj$1 >>>>>> @news.eternal-september.org: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 01/11/2010 01:07 PM, Bear Bottoms wrote: >>>>>>>> Rick<"Rick0009\"NoSpam\""@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:4b4b4bb5$0$4964 $9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are there any real good privacy wipe apps, >>>>>>>>> that remove all traces, not just cookies, and history, >>>>>>>>> but all tracking data? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Must work with newest version of Firefox, and Explorer... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chrome has Incognito mode which does not track any history. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For privacy issues, it's probably better to go with Iron, which is >>>>>>> compiled from Chrome source but w/o the tracking bits. For >>>>>>> details >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apart from that, both Firefox 3.5& Internet Explorer 7+ have >>>>>>> incognito-like surfing abilities. But, if you're looking for >>>>>>> (near-) total anonymity, hopefully someone else can help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> fyi, >>>>>> >>>>>> How is that better? Incognito mode and Iron do the same thing. >>>>> >>>>>The url I posted should answer your question but, if not, we can >>>>>follow up. >>>>> >>>>>In short though, Chrome Incognito mode and Iron Incognito mode are >>>>>exactly the same. They are built from the same source code. What >>>>>differs is google's ability to track your usage & activity. All of >>>>>that does not exist in Iron. >>>>> >>>>>Btw, in addition to Firefox & Internet Explorer, Apple's Safari, >>>>>Seamonkey & Opera all have an "incognito" type mode. >>>>> >>>> >>>>I've used FF for years, and never knew it had Private Browsing. IT is >>>>a check box in Options | Privacy. I use sandboxie just for this >>>>purpose. Also, so web sites won't hit me with a drive by download. >>> >>>Afaik that checkbox in Options tells FF to dump its history when >>>you close it down. It doesn't allow you to surf anonymously. >> >>Who said you could use the web anonymously? > > > Why else would you want a browser that (in your own words) > allows you to indulge in "Private Browsing"? Hummingbird you run the risk of manipulating what the poster said. He actually wrote that he "never knew [Firefox] had Private Browsing". That's different to what you said. |