From: za kAT on
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:48:08 -0500, Sam Luter wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:02:09 +0000, za kAT wrote:
>
>> I weep all the way to the bank...
>
> i own the bank

i own u
--
za kAT
From: N4469P on
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:14:41 GMT, hummingbird wrote:

> 'JB' wrote thus:
>
>>hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> 'Spamblk' wrote thus:
>>>
>>> >Forgive me for poking my nose in this with my 2 cents worth.
>>> >AFAIK the Internet has still the basic architecture based on
>>> >packet switching as set out years ago by persons such as Vint
>>> >Cerf and Robert Kahn. So when you send out information to TOR
>>> >(or whatever) your packets at the first stage go to your local
>>> >network.
>>>
>>> Packets going from your Tor browser to your ISP are encrypted.
>
>
>>You're confused.
>
> No, you are.
> You are making a fool of yourself, JB.
>
>>There's no such thing as a "Tor browser".
>
> http://www.torproject.org/torbrowser/index.html.en


pwned
From: JB on
hummingbird wrote:

> 'JB' wrote thus:
>
> >hummingbird wrote:
> >> Packets going from your Tor browser to your ISP are encrypted.
>
>
> >Packets traveling from your browser to the instance of Tor
> >you're using are *not* encrypted.
>
> But you wrote this 5mins earlier:
>
> "Your original packets are encrypted multiple times before they
> ever leave your machine"
>
> Duh!

Both statements are factual and true. I realize now that you're
sorely lacking when it comes to comprehending the technical aspects
of things, so I won't bother trying to explain them to you in that
regard.

I absolutely will point out the fact that you're a dishonest
asswipe for not including the context of a typical installation
though...

"Your original packets are encrypted multiple times before they ever
leave your machine (assuming a typical setup here)."

Message-ID: <hin4sk$9ro$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>.

Not to mention the fact that I already explained my words in
greater detail, in the message you just replied to...

"This is basically meaningless in practice because in most cases
your running instance of Tor is on the same machine as your browser
or other "Torified" client, but it's not *always* the case."

You see, unlike you I don't have to cower behind an X-No-Archive
header in order to try and deny what I've said. I stand behind what
I write, and it stands behind me. Even when liars like you try to
rewrite it. :)

I also realize now that you're insufferably immature while hiding
behind your keyboard. Not only can't you simply admit your
mistakes, you seem to go on a rampage against anyone who calls you
on them. No matter how petty and ridiculous you become. For showing
that side of yourself so early on I thank you. It will save me a
lot of time down the road. No need to try and help you, I'll just
mop up your ASCII messes when they have tangible consequences, and
move on.

From: JB on
N4469P wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:14:41 GMT, hummingbird wrote:
>
> > 'JB' wrote thus:
> >
> >>hummingbird wrote:
> >>
> >>> 'Spamblk' wrote thus:
> >>>
> >>> >Forgive me for poking my nose in this with my 2 cents worth.
> >>> >AFAIK the Internet has still the basic architecture based on
> >>> >packet switching as set out years ago by persons such as Vint
> >>> >Cerf and Robert Kahn. So when you send out information to TOR
> >>> >(or whatever) your packets at the first stage go to your local
> >>> >network.
> >>>
> >>> Packets going from your Tor browser to your ISP are encrypted.
> >
> >
> >>You're confused.
> >
> > No, you are.
> > You are making a fool of yourself, JB.
> >
> >>There's no such thing as a "Tor browser".
> >
> > http://www.torproject.org/torbrowser/index.html.en
>
>
> pwned

Indeed. Hummingbird is so confused at this point he doesn't even
understand that the word "bundle" denotes the packaging of two or
more individual things into a convenient distribution. That if
there were actually a standalone "Tor Browser" there would be
absolutely no reason to bundle it with anything.

And as ironic as it is, the very name of this "bundle" actually
calls out the two main, *separate* applications contained therein...
Tor, and a browser. You'd think that would make things clear for
even the slowest kid on the small bus, but.... :(

From: JB on
hummingbird wrote:

> 'JB' wrote thus:
>
> >N4469P wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:14:41 GMT, hummingbird wrote:
> >>
> >> > 'JB' wrote thus:
> >> >
> >> >>hummingbird wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> 'Spamblk' wrote thus:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >Forgive me for poking my nose in this with my 2 cents worth.
> >> >>> >AFAIK the Internet has still the basic architecture based on
> >> >>> >packet switching as set out years ago by persons such as Vint
> >> >>> >Cerf and Robert Kahn. So when you send out information to TOR
> >> >>> >(or whatever) your packets at the first stage go to your local
> >> >>> >network.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Packets going from your Tor browser to your ISP are encrypted.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>You're confused.
> >> >
> >> > No, you are.
> >> > You are making a fool of yourself, JB.
> >> >
> >> >>There's no such thing as a "Tor browser".
> >> >
> >> > http://www.torproject.org/torbrowser/index.html.en
> >>
> >>
> >> pwned
>
>
> >Indeed. Hummingbird is so confused at this point he doesn't even
> >understand that the word "bundle" denotes the packaging of two or
> >more individual things into a convenient distribution.
>
> Actually I'm very well aware of that. So once again, you're wrong.
> And it remains a fact that there IS a Tor browser.

Nope. There's Tor, and a browser, bundled together for convenience.
It doesn't make them the same application. That much is obvious to
anyone who isn't mindless enough to rely solely on marketing
nomenclature.

....

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