From: whome? on
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:56:29 -0500, JB <none(a)server.null> wrote:

>whome? wrote:
>
>> Who said you could use the web anonymously? If you use Tor or
>> whatever, there is an IP address at each end. There is no such thing
>> as anonynous web usage.
>
>Wrong.
>
>Tor does indeed provide hard anonymity.
>
>That anonymity comes from it being mathematically unfeasible for
>*anyone* to collate an IP on one side of the Tor network with an IP
>on the other. Yes, both are visible to casual observers, but it's
>impossible to know that the IP on the exit side of Tor is being
>used by any given user at their IP address on the entry side.
>Multiple layers of strong, public key encryption see to that.

Man, you are stubborn. The Tor server has an IP. Your ISP logs your
IP and the Tor IP. Once your packets hit the tor server, the
encryption is removed, and the packets continue to your desired web
site. The Tor server has an ISP like you and I do. The Tor ISP logs
all its traffic, including the Tor exit packets. The only thing Tor
does is make your traffic BLIND to your ISP only. Any cop can unmask
you with minimal effort, especially in the UK. Tor is not worth the
time.
From: Sam Luter on
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:18:04 +0000, hummingbird wrote:

> Where's the feed-in to LE in this? IE what triggers them to
> believe a crime has been committed and they should go to a
> Tor exit node's ISP and start investigating?

ejaculate on the keebored
From: za kAT on
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:10:34 +0000, hummingbird wrote:

> I'm sure we would agree on what needs to be done to achieve either.

Jeeze hum, you haven't even approached an understanding of what he's on
about.

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za kAT
From: Sam Luter on
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:24:58 +0000, hummingbird wrote:

> 'Sam Luter' wrote thus:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:18:04 +0000, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> Where's the feed-in to LE in this? IE what triggers them to
>>> believe a crime has been committed and they should go to a
>>> Tor exit node's ISP and start investigating?
>>
>>ejaculate on the keebored
>
> Oh yeah ... the Big Brother CCTV cams will pick that up...
> Within 10mins, the police are knocking on the door.

tell them ur not there.
From: za kAT on
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:23:12 +0000, hummingbird wrote:

> I am at ease with myself and my life.

Ah! Low expectations. Just as well.

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za kAT
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