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From: Ofnuts on 24 Feb 2010 03:54 On 23/02/2010 21:19, Savageduck wrote: > Picasa is not too bad, but it is another Google app. requiring you to > buy into the new "Dark Empire" that Google is fast becoming. I avoid just as much as you do to give too much of my private life to Google (hence the handle :-)). However, in the case of Picasa, things aren't too bad because 1) nothing forces you to store your pictures on Google's systems por even be connected when you use it, and 2) it's not burying information into proprietary files. The day I don't want to continue with Picasa, I just remove it from my computer and use another software on the same directory tree. The "free" PS Elements found in camera CDs is a way for Adobe to prepare future paying PS customers by preventing them to look at cheaper or free alternatives. -- Bertrand
From: nospam on 24 Feb 2010 04:08 In article <4b84e946$0$26636$426a74cc(a)news.free.fr>, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u.t.s(a)la.poste.net> wrote: > The "free" PS Elements found in camera CDs is a way for Adobe to prepare > future paying PS customers by preventing them to look at cheaper or free > alternatives. nonsense. it doesn't prevent anything.
From: Chris H on 24 Feb 2010 04:19 In message <240220100408385503%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> writes >In article <4b84e946$0$26636$426a74cc(a)news.free.fr>, Ofnuts ><o.f.n.u.t.s(a)la.poste.net> wrote: > >> The "free" PS Elements found in camera CDs is a way for Adobe to prepare >> future paying PS customers by preventing them to look at cheaper or free >> alternatives. > >nonsense. it doesn't prevent anything. Yes it does stupid! A free copy of PS Elements stops them looking at cheaper options... -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Chris Malcolm on 24 Feb 2010 08:02 In rec.photo.digital nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <7ujpt3Fb4lU17(a)mid.individual.net>, ray <ray(a)zianet.com> > wrote: >> Great. What's even better than "$50 if he likes it"? How about FREE if he >> likes it. > some things aren't worth free. And some free things are better than anything you can buy. But at least if you paid a lot of money there will be someone paid to listen to your complaints and try and make you happier about your purchase. -- Chris Malcolm
From: Alan Lichtenstein on 24 Feb 2010 08:31
Chris H wrote: > In message <4b8430f1$0$22546$607ed4bc(a)cv.net>, Alan Lichtenstein > <arl(a)erols.com> writes > >>I have iPhoto on my computer, and it does OK, but I'm looking for >>something that does a bit more processing than what I already have. > > > OK...iPhoto is OK as a catalogue. Though I never really got on with it. > Try elements. The full Photoshop is expensive and probalby too complex > for what you need. > > However I am not sure Lightroom or Aperture will be what you want. You > can eval versions of both. I did and went for Lightroom > > BTW do you use a MAC or a PC? I own a Mac. >> My skill level requires me to either have someone to show it to me, >>or a book to make reference to. > > > Then go with elements as there are PLENTY of free tutorial videos. Most > of the photo magazines have tutorials on the cover CD. You wont get > that for GIMP From the majority of responses, it appears that most would recommend Elements plus Lightroom with Photomatix for HDR eventually. >>My camera store doesn't sell software( would you believe it ), > > > Yes. > > >>so the advice I get from the people there is personal, without a >>profit motive. Also, although I'm looking to upgrade my camera now, >>the one they sold me three years ago, when I knew absolutely nothing >>about digital photography was indeed the correct one, in consideration >>of what I told them at the time. So I trust the people there. And >>they'll be competitive with price. > > > What have you got now and what are you looking for? I currently have iPhoto and it's adequate for minimal editing. I would like to learn to do some more advanced editing, and eventually move into HDR when my knowledge and skills improve. So I'm looking for a program that I can grow with, considering where I am now and where I want to be, while I understand that I'm not purchasing a program 'forever.' I just don't want to have to upgrade very frequently because I've outgrown something rapidly. With that in mind, I don't mind spending a bit more for something that is a little over my head now, but I can comfortably grow into, understanding that I'm going to outgrow it eventually. I had heard that one could do some HDR with Lightroom and Aperature. I also intend to take loads of pictures, so I need a better library program than iPhoto offers. I also intend to purchase an external hard drive for storage. My skill level is best described as low. It's evident to me that everyone here has knowledge skills and understandings that are head and shoulders above me. I feel that the advice I get by those whose skill level is far superior would be good, because they can understand where I am no, because they were once there as well. But I am intrigued with what I can do with a digital camera and a digital darkroom. After all, it's a lot cheaper than film, and perhaps that's why I'm now willing to address the learning curve. After all, processing on my computer is a lot easier than setting up a darkroom for film. >>Based on the discussion so far, I feel that something like GIMP may not >>be good for me, based on my needs and the lack of support. But I thank >>everyone who recommended it anyway. I don't mind spending a few >>dollars, although Photoshop CS3 or 4 IS a bit much right now. > > > > Go for Elements. |