From: Larry on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in news:michelle-
7C1E38.18062110032010(a)nothing.attdns.com:

> FUAD?
>

Fart Up A Drain?



--
"iPad is to computing what Etch-A-Sketch is to art!"

Larry

From: Adam H. Kerman on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk(a)chinet.com> wrote:

>>>>1) Are YOU talking about the topic on Usenet?

>>>>2) Is ANYBODY talking about the topic on Usenet?

>>>>Asking if a group should exist WITHOUT LEARNING IF THERE IS AN AUDIENCE
>>>>is useless.

>>>I DID THAT!!!!

>>You've performed the Justification already? Don't keep it a secret. It's
>>intregral to proposal discussion.

>Learn how to read for comprehension.

No, girl. YOU learn what justification is. Too bad I didn't actually spell
it out for you in the thread that you started in alt.config, that you
just couldn't bother to read.
From: Adam H. Kerman on
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>Michelle Steiner wrote:

>>I tentatively suggest misc.phone.mobile.ipad,

>how about comp.sys.mac.handheld

>which would cater to ipoddtouch, iphone, ipad and whatever else Apple
>may think of in that product space ?

>In other words, sometghing which encompasses all product with that
>version/build of OS-X with the touchscreen user interface etc etc.

There is an old newsgroup, improperly named comp.sys.handhelds (note
the plural), the name of which is broad enough for the discussion that
you propose.

comp.sys.handhelds Handheld computers and programmable calculators.

comp.sys.* is used for all sorts of computer newsgroups in which
"system" isn't actually the main topic of discussion. These are device
groups, obviously.

comp.sys.* also distinguishes "handheld" from "palmtop", with these groups:
comp.sys.palmtops Super-powered calculators in the palm of your hand.
comp.sys.palmtops.pilot The Pilot handheld computer.

If there must be an iPad specific group, perhaps comp.sys.handhelds.ipad,
or comp.sys.palmtops.ipad.

This may be one of the few times when an alt proponent who never intended
to proponent the groups still put some though into naming:

alt.comp.devices.calculators Calculator discussion, multi-lingual
alt.comp.devices.cellphones Cellular telephone discussion, mutli-lingual
alt.comp.devices.digital-cameras Digital camera discussion, multi-lingual
alt.comp.devices.mobile-computers Discussion of laptops, handhelds and peripherals for them, multi-lingual

although these four groups lack archived initial newgroup messages. Their
archived newgroup messages are from the robot.
From: Jim Gibson on
In article <100320102015415291%fort514(a)mac.com>, Charles
<fort514(a)mac.com> wrote:

> In article <4b97f8db$0$5266$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> > how about comp.sys.mac.handheld
>
> I think that is bad. It is not a Mac!

I tend to agree, but it does run a version of the Mac operating system.
Of course, the same can be said of the iPhone and iPod touch. I
personally would like to see an iPad group kept out of the cell-phone
groups, because it is not a phone. I don't own a cellphone, but I plan
on getting an iPad. The current device most similar to the iPad would
be the iPod touch. Are there any groups for that device? The only group
I could find (on News.Individual.NET) is
rec.media.players.portable.ipod.


I would prefer:

comp.sys.mac.ipad

but would also suggest:

comp.sys.apple.ipad
comp.sys.apple.handheld

--
Jim Gibson
From: Kathy Morgan on
[f'ups set to news.groups]

Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <hn8pc5$vo$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk(a)chinet.com> wrote:
>
> > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
> > >"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk(a)chinet.com> wrote:
>
> > What you've done thus far is useless. Now, read the followup I posted to
> > learn what the USEFUL initial steps there are to take. It starts with,
> >
> > 1) Are YOU talking about the topic on Usenet?
> >
> > 2) Is ANYBODY talking about the topic on Usenet?
> >
> > Asking if a group should exist WITHOUT LEARNING IF THERE IS AN AUDIENCE
> > is useless.
>
> I DID THAT!!!!

Yes, and you even mentioned it in the original post in the thread. Adam
can't stand any idea that comes from anyone else and will do his best to
drive you away. It looks like you have him pretty well figured out; you
can safely just ignore him.

For any reasonable person not aware that the subject is being discussed
on Usenet, Individual.Net has 181 posts about the iTab in
comp.sys.mac.comm, 711 posts in comp.sys.mac.system, and 1650 posts in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone in the past month and a half. I don't read
misc.phone.mobile.iphone, but Michelle reports that at least some of the
regulars there would rather not have the discussion there--and I have
previously found Michelle to be reliable and honest in her reporting.

Michelle (and others): You may also feel free to discuss the informal
proposal (and hopefully later a formal RFD) in news.groups.proposals,
which is moderated for civility and topicality. (Your attempt to
crosspost the proposal there was rejected by software for the crosspost
before it was seen by a human moderator. We human moderators would be
happy to see the discussion there, or news.groups is also fine.)

Once a formal RFD is posted, discussion should occur in
news.groups.proposals. I believe all members of the Big 8 Management
Board read all posts there, which is not true of news.groups.

--
Kathy