From: Kathy Morgan on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> Well, the rationale for having the followups going to news.groups is so
> that the discussion would not clog the other newsgroups for people not
> interested in it. It's a matter of consolidation of discussion. And since
> a member of the "big 8" board strongly suggested that I follow the
> procedures in the reference she gave me, and one of those procedures was to
> set the follow-ups only to news.groups, that's what I did.

Ewww...if the reference said to set followups to news.groups only, then
that's something we need to correct. The "official" place for
discussion now is news.groups.proposals and that's the group the
reference should have named for followups. I'm totally swamped and
can't get to it for the next several days, but I'll look through those
web pages over the weekend and fix that and any other errors I find.

The B8MB asks that followups be set to news.groups.proposals because
some groups don't want the meta discussion in their group, but if people
here would like to have the conversation crossposted here, that's fine,
too.

> I've been around long enough to know that some of the big-8 board members
> get very persnickety if their recommendations are not followed, so I am
> going to follow them.

I'll try not to be too obnoxious. ;-)

--
Kathy, member of B8MB but speaking only for myself
From: MS on
On 2010-03-10 11:54:02 -0800, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> said:

> (the reply I made went to news.groups only, this is a copy to
> comp.sys.mac.system).
>
>
> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
>> I tentatively suggest misc.phone.mobile.ipad,
>
> how about comp.sys.mac.handheld
>
> which would cater to ipoddtouch, iphone, ipad and whatever else Apple
> may think of in that product space ?
>
> In other words, sometghing which encompasses all product with that
> version/build of OS-X with the touchscreen user interface etc etc.

Make it specific to the iPad or we'll have to search through 10,000
items per day, most of which won't be applicable to the iPad -- and
that's not counting any spam.

From: �n�hw��f on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> clouded the waters of pure
thought with news:michelle-467A56.18250110032010(a)nothing.attdns.com:

> In article <Xns9D37CE4F19EF2noonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone(a)home.com> wrote:
>
>> > FUAD?
>> >
>>
>> Fart Up A Drain?
>
> Fold Up And Depart. He's busted. I'm too polite to tell him to
> FOAD.
>

Question for the regs...will this iPad group be extra absorbant and
have wings for those "heavy days"?

TIA

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From: Adam H. Kerman on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
>kmorgan(a)spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:

>>>>Asking if a group should exist WITHOUT LEARNING IF THERE IS AN
>>>>AUDIENCE is useless.

>>>I DID THAT!!!!

>>Yes, and you even mentioned it in the original post in the thread. Adam
>>can't stand any idea that comes from anyone else and will do his best to
>>drive you away. It looks like you have him pretty well figured out; you
>>can safely just ignore him.

>I've been hanging around on usenet for some twenty years (I guess that
>makes me a relative newcomer), and I've run into jerks like him (and on
>Fidonet before that).

We still have your unsubstantiated statement, quoted above, that you
performed the Justification. I've been asking YOU for that information
since you first posted to alt.config.

Kathy kinda sorta performed a rudimentary traffic count. It doesn't count if
SHE does it, for she has no interest in making sure the group you would
propose is successful. That's YOUR job.

Incidentally, Kathy's count was rudimentary because, well, she didn't
actually bother to read the articles to find the ones in which iPad was
discussed as a main topic, as opposed to just being mentioned or comments
by Usenet folks talking about its release who haven't purchased one. Such
comments are not representative of discussion over the long term.

It's really not a good idea to start a group so close to product release
because hype posted to Usenet isn't representative.

You may call me all the names you like, but the fact remains that YOU
haven't posted the Justification to Usenet as I requested. There is no
reason for me to give you the benefit of a doubt that you performed the
very basic step, which is the first thing the proponent should do in support
of his own proposal.

Either post a proper Justification, or retract your claim.
From: �n�hw��f on
Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> clouded the waters of pure thought with
news:npqfp5ps7j4s4vqsg8tk0vfjqok1mof2oh(a)4ax.com:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:44:03 -0500, Dave Sill <dave(a)sill.org>
wrote:
>
>>On 03/10/10 13:02, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>> I followed Kathy's advice, and read
>>> <http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation>
>>
>>You're doing great, Michelle. Ignore Kerman.
>
> Adam's bowtie may be a little tight today
>
Bow tie daddy
dont you blow your top
everythings under control

Bow tie daddy
dont you blow your top
cause you think your getting too old

Dont try to do no thinkin
just go on with your drinkin
and have your fun
you old son of a gun
and drive home in your lincoln

-FZ & Mothers of Invention


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