Proposal for an iPad newsgroup
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From: Adam H. Kerman on 10 Mar 2010 12:26 Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: >This is a proposal for a newsgroup for Apple's iPad. . . . No, this isn't. I explained in alt.config. Kathy pointed out to you a Web page explaining a Big 8 RFD. You aren't capable of taking advice, so there's no point in being a proponent. Do you homework, then make a proper proposal. This is utterly useless.
From: Steve Bonine on 10 Mar 2010 13:23 Michelle Steiner wrote: > "Adam H. Kerman"<ahk(a)chinet.com> wrote: >>> This is a proposal for a newsgroup for Apple's iPad. . . . >> No, this isn't. > Maybe I should have written "informal discussion" instead of "proposal", so > big deal. There is a difference between "proposal" and "RFD". You used the right phrase. Starting an informal discussion is a good way to begin the process of creating a newsgroup.
From: Dave Sill on 10 Mar 2010 13:44 On 03/10/10 13:02, Michelle Steiner wrote: > > I followed Kathy's advice, and read > <http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation> You're doing great, Michelle. Ignore Kerman. -Dave
From: Adam H. Kerman on 10 Mar 2010 13:45 Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: >"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk(a)chinet.com> wrote: For gawd's sake, DO NOT cut out attribution lines. If you quote, even if you quote yourself, LEAVE THE ATTRIBUTION LINE IN PLACE. It is critical during proposal discussion to know who has said what. >>>This is a proposal for a newsgroup for Apple's iPad. . . . >>No, this isn't. I explained in alt.config. Kathy pointed out to you a >>Web page explaining a Big 8 RFD. >>You aren't capable of taking advice, so there's no point in being a >>proponent. Do you homework, then make a proper proposal. This is utterly >>useless. >I followed Kathy's advice, and read ><http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation> So, you started discussion in alt.config, and didn't bother to read ALL of the followup in alt.config. If you are going to be a proponent, then you've got to READ the discussion. What you've done thus far is useless. Now, read the followup I posted to learn what the USEFUL initial steps there are to take. It starts with, 1) Are YOU talking about the topic on Usenet? 2) Is ANYBODY talking about the topic on Usenet? Asking if a group should exist WITHOUT LEARNING IF THERE IS AN AUDIENCE is useless.
From: Adam H. Kerman on 10 Mar 2010 13:50
Steve Bonine <spb(a)pobox.com> wrote: >Michelle Steiner wrote: >>"Adam H. Kerman"<ahk(a)chinet.com> wrote: >>>>This is a proposal for a newsgroup for Apple's iPad. . . . >>>No, this isn't. >>Maybe I should have written "informal discussion" instead of "proposal", so >>big deal. >There is a difference between "proposal" and "RFD". You used the right >phrase. Starting an informal discussion is a good way to begin the >process of creating a newsgroup. Bonine is wrong. In the Big 8, a group is proposed by submitting an RFD, which is a lengthy message in specific syntax with a ton of useless boilerplate cruft in it. In alt, the group is proposed in alt proposal format, which is a draft of a newgroup message itself without using the required headers for newgroup message syntax. This is not a proposal. This is STILL pre-proposal or pre-RFD, because our pre-proponent hasn't done her homework yet. |