Question re Canon iP1500
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From: Mary on 3 Apr 2006 20:07 "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1144107553.174319.11720(a)e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > Mary wrote: > > I'll have to see what printers are available here and go from there. We > > are more limited for variety of printers you have. You have 10 times the > > population we have, so you have more competition, which means cheaper > > prices, and more variety. I have 4 Staples stores not too far away from > > where I live, and notice that in different Staples they have some > > different models that other stores don't have on display. I don't know > > if they would have iP 5000 or not, but if iP 4000 is more than I want to > > pay, iP 5000 would be even more money. From my experience with Epson, I > > vowed never to get 4 different cartridges again. I really don't want to > > buy carts online if I don't have to. I am not sure what I am going to > > get yet and would have to look around. Staples in Canada have an online > > site and have iP 4000 advertised there but its about twice the price I > > paid for the one I have, so I would have to pay about $60.00 Can. plus > > 15% tax which is what we pay, so thats $80.00 Can. =$68.30 US. I can't > > really afford that right now, and may have to stop printing photos at > > home. The cartridges are too expensive, and I need to start using the > > Kodak machines you get at Walmart and other places. > > Walmart is a good solid solution for photos, but I must submit in the > case of Canon, and usually in the case of Epson, the 4 or 5 cartridge > makes the best ecconomic sence. Maybe, but going back and forth every week or two is not my idea of fun. I would rather put up with the three in one colors and print less photos. I have an allergy to buying printer cartridges. Must be my Scotch blood. Seems like everybody complains about the prices charged. Yes, they have to make their money from cartridges, but I think I would rather pay more for the printer and a LOT less for cartridges. Just bugs me no end. The ip1500 and even the old bj-2100 > offered thimble sized cartridges which increase your cost per page. > Last time I did the math it was about double the cost. I wasn't printing many photos then, so those printers were fine for me and I might go back to not printing many photos again. Its getting too expensive. > $80 canadian for the ip4000 is a dang good deal, likely to be a limited > time deal as this model has been replaced by the ip4200 which is as I > said in another responce not so easy to refill. I meant I would have to pay $80.00 Can. for the difference between handing in my old printer and getting a new one. The ip4000 is $150.00 Can. if I were to go to the store and buy it without considering I am giving back my ip1500. On the other hand, I could take my printer back and pay nothing or maybe another $20.00 to get something a little better, but I wasn't thinking of paying $80.00 more. And I don't want a printer that is not three colors in one cartridge. > To really lower costs, consider refilling your self. I'm not up on > Canadian companies, but hobbicolors on e-bay has the best price, and > enough people have used it to sugest it's good. You might ask if they > are willing to ship via US post declairing it as "stationary supplies > Gift $20.00". That's what it costs, it's the truth, well except the > gift part. > http://hobbicolors.com/page5.html Usually if its a company, they won't undervalue their declaration. With individuals you can do almost all the time, but companies are different and are more cautious. I've never looked into buying ink online, but I know thee are some Canadian sites sell it. I don't think I would want to do refills. seems like a pain to me. > For the moment i'll assume US$30, UK would be $12 to ship and canada > should be similar. So CDN$35, or let's say CDN$40 just to be safe. > This represents about 4 refills of color, and 4 refills of pigmented > black. Slightly over, but i'm lazy. CDN$2.50 each. Where do you get UK from on your top line? > Assuming an average price of CDN$16.75 per color and dye black, and CDN > $18 for the big pigmented black, this works out to be CDN $340 plus 15% > tax CDN$391. Even the Staple compatables are at best CDN$13.46 each, a > good deal more than CDN $2.50 each. When taking paper into account, > this would likely undercut Walmart printing. You mean I would pay $391.00? I could buy a lot of printers for that. I'm sure you don't mean that. > This is not to say one can't easily refill a ip-1500, just simply the > cartridges are smaller and there isn't the level of aftermarket support > for it, esp that tri-color tank. I "imagine" the ip1600 could be, but > this is a tad more touchy as they are tanks with cartridges onboard, > much more difficult than a transparent tank with a wod of foam on the > inside. I haven't looked into one of the ink refillers here. When I had the Epson after a while, I got the tanks refilled at an ink refilling place in a mall not too far from me. But I don't want to do separate color cartridges again. I got very put off and seemed to always be getting them refilled. Epson charged a lot for their carts. > But as burt says it's up to you. The ip4000 at that price, and manual > refilling makes buckets of economic sense, even if you go for > compatables. Checkout nifty regarding Canadian solutions. The Ip4000 is $150.00 Can. to buy. If I take back the ip5000, I would have to pay $80.00 to make the price up to $150.00 and the ip4000 has separate cartridges which I don't want. I would rather print less photos and use the tri color carts. Mry
From: measekite on 3 Apr 2006 20:05 Mary wrote: >"measekite" <inkystinky(a)oem.com> wrote in message news:FSbYf.63835 > > > >>Mary wrote: >> >> > >Burt: > > > >>>Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your >>>> >>>> >enjoying > > >>>> >>>> >>>it. >>> >>>Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during >>> >>> >that > > >>>time >>> >>> >>> >>>till I got a new Staples compatible >>> >>> >>> >>THATS WHAT I MEAN. >> >> > >You had to quote the whole message just to say 4 words? > >If you had read what I said below this paragraph I am typing you would >have noticed that I said that I had ALWAYS used Staples compatibles. I >have never used Canon brand name cartridges since I got the computer a >year ago. When I said my printer worked fine since I got the printer >tilll I got a new Staples compatible, I meant to emphasize the word >"NEW" meaning it was a new cartridge. > IF YOU KEEP TOUCHING THE STOVE YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET BURNT >It was not meant to be that >STaples cartridge was new to me. I used Staples compatible cartridges >ever since I had the printer. I only tried a Canon name brand because >the Staples cartridge had this pink tinge to my photos and I wanted to >see if the Canon carts did the same and they did. The Staples carts >which I've used all along, never had that pink cast before and I've used >tons of Staples cartridges. > > > >>>but that is what I have always >>>used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a >>>pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the >>> >>> >Canon > > >>>brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples >>>compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its >>>something to do with the printer. >>> >>> > > >
From: Gary Tait on 3 Apr 2006 20:14 "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e0qbbh$3fb$1(a)emma.aioe.org: > I thought my iP 1500 was a previous generation? It is. The lower end of the Canon lines use tri-color carts, rather than individual carts. The only change in the bottom of the new line (the 1600), is that they have switched to Head-ON-Carts, which means no aftermarket (for now), and even more costly carts, since you are buying a printhead each time. Doing the math, it would cost you nearly thrice per cart set for a 1600 vs a 3200, so you would be even better off to go for the 3200 (or 4200). But since you have that 4000 apparently available, scoop that up and you will be golden.
From: Frank on 3 Apr 2006 20:29 Mary wrote: > OK, I will kill file him. > > Mary > Very good idea Mary as he is nothing but a know nothing drunken sod. Frank
From: Mary on 3 Apr 2006 20:38
"Gary Tait" <classicsat(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Xns979ACDE722E66wonkynillmailnil(a)142.77.1.194... > "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in news:e0qbbh$3fb$1(a)emma.aioe.org: > > > I thought my iP 1500 was a previous generation? > > It is. The lower end of the Canon lines use tri-color carts, rather than > individual carts. The only change in the bottom of the new line (the 1600), > is that they have switched to Head-ON-Carts, which means no aftermarket > (for now), and even more costly carts, since you are buying a printhead > each time. Yes, it would cost more - thats no good. I wonder why they did that when the ip1500 has tri color carts. Don't some other manufacturers such as Lexmark have mainly or only head on carts? Just wondered - is Canon the best printer to get? or are there other brands just as good? High on my requirements is a printer that takes carts that are not too expensive, though all of them are, but the least or close to it and one that has available compatibles. > Doing the math, it would cost you nearly thrice per cart set for a 1600 vs > a 3200, so you would be even better off to go for the 3200 (or 4200). seems like it. I've never seen the 3200 so far here, but saw 4200 advertised on STaples Canada but its a little more money than the 4000 and unless it has much better features than the 4000, its not worth paying more. > But since you have that 4000 apparently available, scoop that up and you > will be golden. The 4000 is not really cheap. There are lots cheaper, and I would have to pay $80.00 to get it, instead of nothing or $20.00 more after I hand in my old printer. It might be worth it, though I would have to think about it. By the way, is the 4000 tri color carts? Not separate colors is it? The thing I liked about the ip1500 it has a printhead you could take out if needing cleaned, and just had to buy carts and also the carts were cheaper than most other printers. And it printed photos good enough for me. It was cheap to buy but I found it satisfactory for my purposes. Other people may like to get really good printers but I am happy with a cheaper printer as long as it works fine for me. Mary |