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From: Mary on 5 Apr 2006 14:34 "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1144134949.971654.323010(a)z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Any HP models you know of that are not too expensive but quite good and > > have reasonably priced carts? I prefer tri color carts. They are more > > convenient. If I stop priting photos so much, I won't be using up as > > much ink and don't want to bother with separate ink carts. > > I'm a froogle person, so I don't know the sub $100 market for printers > very well. > > All prices canadian > > Under $100 you have the hp 3845 for CDN $50 > 8ml Black HP 27 $28.63 $3.50/ml 220pages 13c/page > HP 28 $33.62 190 pages 17c/page > $62.25 > Optional #58 photo cartridge, for spiffy photos you gotta buy "another" > cartridge that doesn't live in your printer. Thats the one on STaples web page but not in stores now. Its so much cheaper than any others, I can't help but wonder if its any good. The cheapest one I saw yesterday was $70.00. The HP3845 has to be ordered from Staples online store, and store ordering and web ordering is separate. You can order something from the web and take it back to the store if you don't like it, but not the other way around - thats my perception anyway. > For $100 > HP Deskjet 5440 > 5ml Black #92 $19.93 210 pages 9c/page > 5ml Color #93 $24.96 175 pages 14c/page > $44.89 Thats the one the sales guy said was a new model, though may not be new on US market. > Also under $100 > Lexmark Z517 Inkjet Printer > #16 Black $39.96 400p 10c/page > #26 Color $44.96 150p 29c/page > $84.92 I didn't look at Lexmark. Most people say their cartridges are the most expensive. > -or- > Canon ip4000 over $100 > $130 to $150 > 25ml Black BCI-3e - $16.98 500pages 3c/page > 4x14ml Color bci-6 -$17.96 280 pages Somewhere between 19c/page and > 24c/page > $88.82 That is $129.00 and quite expensive carts. I am not thinking about refilling, but its interesting to know what the costs are. If anything I would buy compatibles if its STaples brand which are ok, or maybe online sometime, but I definitely don't want to do my own refilling. > Yes, there are tri-color cartridge options. Head on the cartridge > type. Color is harder to calculate but without a doubt you'll end up > spending triple the cost per page for black. Plus aftermarket ink will > be more spendy on this type. > > OEM ink > > Black text, 5% yield. > hp 3845 1500p $195.20 > hp 5440 1500p $142.36 > Lexmark Z5171500p $149.85 > Canon ip4000 1500p $51 > > This is not to say you can't find a used HP that takes nice sized tanks > that cost a reasonable price, but on the new front... after your 3rd > ream of paper your spending $100 more for black ink. Your average user > will see savings after 1 year of use spending $50 to $70 more for a > printer. > > It's your call. You are really into inks in a big way and seem to know everything about them. I really do appreciate your giving me so much information. I've got so much information on this NG from various people, my head is spinning and I am not sure what printer I would get. I will have to study the stituation more and see what I think. All printers have some good features and not so good features. Its a matter of trade-off as to what I am willing to trade off. Mary
From: Mary on 5 Apr 2006 14:56 "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:OFnYf.55247 <snip> > I now also have an ip5000 printer for my wife. One of my i960 printers and > two ip5000 printers were purchased new on closeouts for $100 each. The > ip5000's were in Staples stores on unadvertised closeouts and had no signs > out or demo models on the shelf. I just happened to see them in the boxes > stacked with the newer printers on the shelf under the demo models. ASAP - > take a trip to the Staples stores in your area and see if they have any of > these left and if they are at a closeout price. Because the demand in > Canada is less, as you've described, you may get lucky! It was an idea, but I was at STaples yesterday and sales guy mentioned that all printers they have are out on display. There is a cork board in most Staples stoere and they have tickets on them belonging to notebooks or computers that they are selling cheaper, but haven't seen anything I wanted there yet. Mary
From: measekite on 5 Apr 2006 14:54 Mary wrote: >"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message news:OFnYf.55247 > ><snip> > > > >>I now also have an ip5000 printer for my wife. One of my i960 >> >> >printers and > > >>two ip5000 printers were purchased new on closeouts for $100 each. >> >> >The > > >>ip5000's were in Staples stores on unadvertised closeouts and had no >> >> >signs > > >>out or demo models on the shelf. I just happened to see them in the >> >> >boxes > > >>stacked with the newer printers on the shelf under the demo models. >> >> >ASAP - > > >>take a trip to the Staples stores in your area and see if they have >> >> >any of > > >>these left and if they are at a closeout price. Because the demand in >>Canada is less, as you've described, you may get lucky! >> >> > >It was an idea, but I was at STaples yesterday and sales guy mentioned >that all printers they have are out on display. There is a cork board in >most Staples stoere and they have tickets on them belonging to notebooks >or computers that they are selling cheaper, but haven't seen anything I >wanted there yet. > >Mary > > SINCE YOU TALK TO BURTIE FURTIE AND SAY THE THINGS YOU SAY I THINK YOU ARE REALLY RIPE TO GET TAKEN BY A SALES JERK THAT DID NOT GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL.
From: measekite on 5 Apr 2006 14:56 Mary wrote: >"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:1144134949.971654.323010(a)z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > >>>Any HP models you know of that are not too expensive but quite good >>> >>> >and > > >>>have reasonably priced carts? I prefer tri color carts. They are >>> >>> >more > > >>>convenient. If I stop priting photos so much, I won't be using up as >>>much ink and don't want to bother with separate ink carts. >>> >>> >>I'm a froogle person, so I don't know the sub $100 market for printers >>very well. >> >>All prices canadian >> >>Under $100 you have the hp 3845 for CDN $50 >>8ml Black HP 27 $28.63 $3.50/ml 220pages 13c/page >>HP 28 $33.62 190 pages 17c/page >>$62.25 >>Optional #58 photo cartridge, for spiffy photos you gotta buy >> >> >"another" > > >>cartridge that doesn't live in your printer. >> >> > >Thats the one on STaples web page but not in stores now. Its so much >cheaper than any others, I can't help but wonder if its any good. The >cheapest one I saw yesterday was $70.00. The HP3845 has to be ordered >from Staples online store, and store ordering and web ordering is >separate. You can order something from the web and take it back to the >store if you don't like it, but not the other way around - thats my >perception anyway. > > > >>For $100 >>HP Deskjet 5440 >>5ml Black #92 $19.93 210 pages 9c/page >>5ml Color #93 $24.96 175 pages 14c/page >>$44.89 >> >> > >Thats the one the sales guy said was a new model, though may not be new >on US market. > > > >>Also under $100 >>Lexmark Z517 Inkjet Printer >> #16 Black $39.96 400p 10c/page >> #26 Color $44.96 150p 29c/page >>$84.92 >> >> > >I didn't look at Lexmark. Most people say their cartridges are the most >expensive. > > > >>-or- >>Canon ip4000 over $100 >>$130 to $150 >>25ml Black BCI-3e - $16.98 500pages 3c/page >>4x14ml Color bci-6 -$17.96 280 pages Somewhere between 19c/page and >>24c/page >>$88.82 >> >> > >That is $129.00 and quite expensive carts. I am not thinking about >refilling, but its interesting to know what the costs are. If anything I >would buy compatibles if its STaples brand which are ok, or maybe online >sometime, but I definitely don't want to do my own refilling. > > > >>Yes, there are tri-color cartridge options. Head on the cartridge >>type. Color is harder to calculate but without a doubt you'll end up >>spending triple the cost per page for black. Plus aftermarket ink will >>be more spendy on this type. >> >>OEM ink >> >>Black text, 5% yield. >>hp 3845 1500p $195.20 >>hp 5440 1500p $142.36 >>Lexmark Z5171500p $149.85 >>Canon ip4000 1500p $51 >> >>This is not to say you can't find a used HP that takes nice sized >> >> >tanks > > >>that cost a reasonable price, but on the new front... after your 3rd >>ream of paper your spending $100 more for black ink. Your average >> >> >user > > >>will see savings after 1 year of use spending $50 to $70 more for a >>printer. >> >>It's your call. >> >> > >You are really into inks in a big way and seem to know everything about >them. >I really do appreciate your giving me so much information. I've got so >much information on this NG from various people, my head is spinning >and I am not sure what printer I would get. I will have to study the >stituation more and see what I think. All printers have some good >features and not so good features. Its a matter of trade-off as to what >I am willing to trade off. > >Mary > > HE IS REALLY INTO POOR ADVICE
From: measekite on 5 Apr 2006 14:58
Mary wrote: >"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >news:7ksYf.217733$sa3.96579(a)pd7tw1no... > > >>Future Shop isn't Canadian owned anymore. It started out privately >>owned in Canada. Was then sold and made public but still held in >>Canada. It is now owned by Best Buy, a US company. >> >> > >Like Staples used to be Business Depot till it was bought by Staples. It >still has Business Depot/Staples outside their stores for people >familiar with Business Depot name. Hudsons Bay was just bought by a rich >American guy not long ago. > THAT WAS THE TIME OF THE FRENCH AND INDIAN WAR >They all get offers they can't refuse I >guess. > > > >>The name has value to them, since it was built and billed as a >> >> >Canadian > > >>company. Best Buy doesn't really want you to know or think about >> >> >Future > > >>Shop as theirs. Lately, they have been opening up Best Buy stores >> >> >right > > >>across the way from Future Shop, so they can "play" off one another >> >> >for > > >>pricing. >> >> > >I'm in the east end of Toronto and only one Best Buy out my way but >about 4 Future shops, one FS a 5 min. drive from me > WHEN THERE IS NOT SNOW >. I was there >yesterday in fact. I have not seen Best Buy and Future shop stores close >to each other, but it could be the case in some areas. There are a lot >more Future shops here than Best Buy. About 8 Best Buys in Toronto and >immediate area and about 14 FS's. Myself I prefer Future shop, as they >have more variety. Maybe its just the Best Buy near me. It was built >only about a year ago near a large shopping mall. I find they don't have >the same amount of variety and prices are a little more there than >Future shop. > >It is the same game they play in shopping malls where 3 or 4 > > >>athletic shoe stores, all with different names and slightly different >>stock, carry on business, and people "comparison shop" between the >>stores, thinking they are shopping for the best deal. However, all >> >> >the > > >>shops are actually owned by one parent company, so they don't care >> >> >which > > >>store you end up buying at. You may "save" a few bucks, but any way >> >> >you > > >>look at it, you've made the purchase from the same business, and since >>all are owned by one company, the prices never vary more than a few >>bucks, since they "control" the level of competition between them. >> >> > >One difference between the two stores is Best Buy sales people are not >on commision, and wear a badge saying "we are not on commission" meaning >they don't bug people to buy like some Future shop sales people do as >they are not on commission. I don't have a problem with FS sales people, >maybe because they know me and know I don't want to be bugged and like >to look around. > > > >>It gives people a nice warm feeling that they comparison shopped and >>came home with the best deal "in the mall". The thing is, a shop 2 >>blocks down, independently owned, might have offered the same pair of >>shoes for 40% less, but they don't want you leaving the mall, so they >>offer you "fake" shopping around. Future Shop and Best Buy do just >>that. I was told that in Toronto somewhere they opened up a Best Buy >>next to a Future Shop, as an experiment. There was also an Office >> >> >Depot > > >>and Staples in the same area. When the Best Buy opened, Future Shop >>"lost" about 10-15% of the business to them, but Staples and Office >>Depot lost over 40% between them to them, so that still put them 40% >>ahead, since the Future Shop business was just transferred from one >>store to the other. >> >> > >I don't know where that would be. not out my way anyway. Toronto is huge >so could be in the west end and I know nothing whats out there - too far >:) > > > >>Nothing better than owning your supposed competition. The food >> >> >industry > > >>does it all the time. >> >> > >They all have marketing ploys to try to make a decent profit and >survive. > >Mary > > > |