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From: James Taylor on 20 Jan 2010 01:43 zoara wrote: > Given the circumstances, I think it's easier for Real to discover that > their site hangs Safari (and to fix the problem) than it is for Apple to > discover that their browser hangs on the Real site (and to fix the > problem). Easier perhaps, but the responsibility is very much Apple's to fix bugs in their browser. If the Real site can crash the browser this may be a memory corruption bug that could be developed into a remote code execution exploit that a malicious site would be able to use to take control of your computer. Security imperatives require Apple to fix it. In Apple's position I'd be running flat out to snapshot the Real site so that I had a reproducible test case I could analyse. > In one case the scenario is at the very top of your list of test cases. > In the other it's a *lot* lower down. You're right, it should be at the top of Apple's list, Real can afford to tell people to use Firefox instead. -- James Taylor
From: Rowland McDonnell on 20 Jan 2010 03:01 James Taylor <usenet(a)oakseed.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell wrote: > > > Peter Ceresole wrote: [snip] > > My new Intel iMac doesn't show slow panning hiccups, but it does take it > > a lot of CPU (not quite 70%) to play a BBC HD stream - that is just a > > waste of electricity if you ask me; they should have picked a more > > efficient method. QT player doesn't have any of the same troubles when > > doing Web streaming, for example. > > But QuickTime is full of security holes too. Not relevant, given the reality of the world we live in. What's relevant is that it's not as inefficient as Flash. [snip] > >> I use it here, and it works very well, for both video and sound. > > > > It wouldn't take me long to show you how to persuade iPlayer to need a > > relaunch before it'd play anything. I can also show you iPlayer > > refusing to show subtitles (probably - not quite worked out the trigger > > for that one, but it's common enough that it wouldn't take long to show > > that bug). > > Wow, if the bugs are that easy to find, just imagine how easy it would > be for a hacker to find exploitable bugs. Sends shivers down my spine! Paranoid nutcase. > > And the UI is *awful*. > > It's not great. It's main problem is that you have no choice. The DRM > prevents them from allowing you to play the videos in your own choice of > media player, or organise them in your own choice of media manager, or > on your own choice of computing platform. The consumer rights limitation software permits the Beeb to get people to sign a contract that lets the iPlayer service be operated at all. So you're being a knob, as usual. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Graeme on 20 Jan 2010 05:10 In message <D.Gray-3FA951.22540319012010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk> Dorian Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > Getting back to the point, can someone confirm that > <http://www.real.com/mac/realplayer> hangs Safari 4.0.4 on OS X 10.4.11 > (PPC G4). If it doesn't hang it on 10.4.11 on an Intel machine, why > not? If it doesn't hang it on 10.5 or 10.6, why not? Don't know if this is helpful but it doesn't hang S4.0.4 on OSX 10.5.8 on a PPC G4. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: Rowland McDonnell on 20 Jan 2010 06:31 Dorian Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote: > > > Dorian Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > > > > >It hangs Safari 4.0.4 on Mac OS X 10.4.11. Good work Real. > > > > Surely you mean "Good work Apple". > > No, I meant the opposite of "Good work Real". Real is offering a player > to Mac OS X users. You would think they would make sure their download > page doesn't hang the standard browser on OS X. If Apple can't a decent Web browser, why should other firms work around its failures? In a properly ordered society, no Web page would be able to crash a browser. If it were the case that there were no choice but to use Safari, you'd have a point. But not otherwise. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: James Taylor on 20 Jan 2010 06:48
Rowland McDonnell wrote: > If Apple can't a decent Web browser, why should other firms work around > its failures? In a properly ordered society, no Web page would be able > to crash a browser. Quite right! I wonder whether Apple will patch it this year or next. -- James Taylor |