Real player for Mac download site hangs Safari
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From: James Taylor on 20 Jan 2010 09:51 Rowland McDonnell wrote: > The consumer rights limitation software permits the Beeb to get people > to sign a contract that lets the iPlayer service be operated at all. I know that, I said as much in another post. Pay attention. -- James Taylor
From: Paul Grayson on 20 Jan 2010 10:02 On Jan 19, 10:54 pm, Dorian Gray <D.G...(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > Getting back to the point, can someone confirm that > <http://www.real.com/mac/realplayer> hangs Safari 4.0.4 on OS X 10.4.11 > (PPC G4). If it doesn't hang it on 10.4.11 on an Intel machine, why > not? If it doesn't hang it on 10.5 or 10.6, why not? Every Safari crash that I've experienced in the past has been caused by a faulty plug-in. As the plug-in runs as a thread of the browser code, a buggy one makes it look that the browser itself is at fault. You could always try temporally moving all plugins from /Library/ Internet Plug-Ins (and ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins), and seeing if the browser still crashes. It may even be Real's own plug-in that's to blame.
From: James Taylor on 20 Jan 2010 14:49 Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: > James Taylor wrote: > >> I can't manage the media in my normal media manger or play it in my >> preferred player, I'm stuck using their interface instead. > > the video streams themselves can be captured and downloaded, > as I'm sure you know. No, I didn't know that. How? > Then they can be managed with your preferred player. That would be great. Please explain how to do it. > Admin privs are required to install the flash package because it lives > outside the Users filesystem, and in the security-controlled Internet > Addons folder. This has no bearing on its executable privileges - > flash does not get root privs at any time unless you trigger it as > root, it runs in userspace. Oh that's good news. Thanks for clearing that up. -- James Taylor
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 20 Jan 2010 15:50 On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:49:29 +0700, James Taylor <usenet(a)oakseed.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote: >Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: > >> James Taylor wrote: >> >>> I can't manage the media in my normal media manger or play it in my >>> preferred player, I'm stuck using their interface instead. >> >> the video streams themselves can be captured and downloaded, >> as I'm sure you know. > >No, I didn't know that. How? Coo! iPlayer Downloader, http://www.limaromeo.com/iplayer-downloader/ Sometimes falls behind when the Beeb change the mechanisms, but there's been a dozen or two updates over time and it mostly works. >> Admin privs are required to install the flash package because it lives >> outside the Users filesystem, and in the security-controlled Internet >> Addons folder. This has no bearing on its executable privileges - >> flash does not get root privs at any time unless you trigger it as >> root, it runs in userspace. > >Oh that's good news. Thanks for clearing that up. You can check the bundles yourself - there's no sticky bits to inherit any privs, so they're clean. Um. As long as there aren't any extended attributes that might do the same thing, I suppose - never occurred to me before. Cheers - Jaimie -- The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times. -- Nietzsche
From: James Taylor on 20 Jan 2010 19:32
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: > James Taylor wrote: > >> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: >> >>> the video streams themselves can be captured and downloaded, >>> as I'm sure you know. >> >> No, I didn't know that. How? > > Coo! iPlayer Downloader, http://www.limaromeo.com/iplayer-downloader/ I thought you were going to tell me to use a sniffer to capture the download TCP stream, extract the payload, and then remove the DRM using a tool that has the DRM keys extracted from iPlayer itself. It's almost an anti-climax to see you recommend an application that automatically does it all for me (assuming that's what it does). Unfortunately, I don't run Mac OS X as an Internet facing OS any more. I've become disillusioned because of Apple's poor security performance. So for downloading iPlayer video I'd need software for Linux. Ah, here's a cross platform downloader: <http://po-ru.com/projects/iplayer-downloader/> > You can check the bundles yourself - there's no sticky bits to inherit > any privs, so they're clean. That maybe the case, but I didn't see everything that the installer put on my machine while it was running as root. It could have hidden an suid wrapper anywhere that it can later use to elevate its privileges. In theory anyway, I'm not saying that's likely. > Um. As long as there aren't any extended attributes that might do the > same thing, I suppose - never occurred to me before. Good question. I wish I had time to look into it. -- James Taylor |