From: Todd on
On 06/20/2010 01:34 PM, Maxwell Lol wrote:
> Todd<todd(a)invalid.com> writes:
>
>> Another follow up question:
>>
>> If I disable root to root access (no logon as root
>> through ssh), does that preclude a remote user
>> from "su" to root?
>
> No. But you can use sudo instead of giving them root password.

Love it. Thank you.

-T
From: Maxwell Lol on
Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> writes:

> Okay. Lets call the computer with the data displayed on it
> the "lil guy" and the one doing the number crunching the "big
> guy".

In X11, the little guy is the one who is using a little section of the
bitmap diosplay. The "big guy" is the one with the big bitmap diosplay
(the entire screen).

From: Maxwell Lol on
Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> writes:

> I do admire that you are able to track the X11 folks
> thinking on the matter and explain it to the rest of
> us. No insult was intended.

It's pretty obvious once you think about it.

Q: what service does X11 Windows System provide?
From: Maxwell Lol on
gazelle(a)shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:

> No. Telling them that it is backwards compared to most of the other
> computing models with which they come into contact with, helps them use
> the correct terminology when using X (and when discussing it with
> others).

OR..... You can explain to them what SERVICE X11 provides.

It's not a frigging COMPUTE sserver. It's a BITMAP server!
From: Maxwell Lol on
Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> writes:

> On 06/19/2010 08:35 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
>
>> It's not just their right, it *is* right! It just *seems* backwards to
>> people used to thinking in terms of "big machine == server" instead of
>> the more accurate "listening machine == server".
>

A server is a server. There are print servers. name servers, file
servers, computer servers, and dispay servers.



> Both machines are listening. My "beef" with their calling the
> workstation the server,

It is a DISPLAY server.

>is that the workstation is only
> displaying results that is asked for from a network connection
> that is established.
>
> The workstation sends out the first SYN packet.



Excuse me? When a client (a remote computer) opens a connetion, it
initiates the connection to the display.

Don't be confused because you first start a ssh session from the
workstation, and then start an X11 session from the remote machine.