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From: Kenny McCormack on 20 Jun 2010 09:11 In article <ase0f7xpsf.ln2(a)goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>, Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: >On 2010-06-20, Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> wrote: >> >> But, if that is they way the X11 folks want to do it, it >> is their right. > >It's not just their right, it *is* right! It just *seems* backwards to >people used to thinking in terms of "big machine == server" instead of >the more accurate "listening machine == server". > >> And, and, by referring to it as backward, you remove the >> "state of confusion" from so very many victims of the >> play on words. > >...which is why I usually try to be nice when I explain that it's not >actually backwards. :) It *is* backwards. Not morally deficient. Just different. You need to step back a bit and realize that we are not saying that the X model/terminology is bad or morally deficient. What we are saying is that it *is* confusing to "newbies". People do get it - it's not rocket science, as they say - but it is confusing at first. -- > No, I haven't, that's why I'm asking questions. If you won't help me, > why don't you just go find your lost manhood elsewhere. CLC in a nutshell.
From: Kenny McCormack on 20 Jun 2010 09:12 In article <hvl32k$m0b$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>, J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.ORG> wrote: >On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:16:48 -0700, Todd wrote: > >> But if that is the way the X11 folks want to phrase it, it is okay with >> me. Just as long as I know what they are up to so I can adjust for >> their quirks in speech. > >What an insulting remark to people who know, understand and use >the correct terminology. Why is that an insult? You need to, as they say, get back on your meds. -- Just for a change of pace, this sig is *not* an obscure reference to comp.lang.c...
From: Kenny McCormack on 20 Jun 2010 09:21 In article <hvkgh2$aid$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> wrote: .... >Oh no, I do understand it. It is backwards. Agreed. It's not, after all, rocket science. These guys are playing the game that says that if you don't loving embrace something, it's because you don't understand it. Essentially, this game says that it's impossible to understand something but still not like it. >Okay. Lets call the computer with the data displayed on it >the "lil guy" and the one doing the number crunching the "big >guy". (Going off on a bit of a tangent here) First of all, don't get me wrong; I love X! I like it's quirkiness. Don't paint me as kind of anti-X (and/or anti-Unix) whiner. But, having said that, the problem is that the fundamental X model is "weird" by current/modern standards. And, I suggest that we all go out and read the chapter on X in the UHG (*). It covers this weirdness/quirkiness better than I could do here. (*) Unix Haters Guide - a great book, even if (maybe, especially if) you love Unix. Available for free download as PDF file - GIYF. -- > No, I haven't, that's why I'm asking questions. If you won't help me, > why don't you just go find your lost manhood elsewhere. CLC in a nutshell.
From: J G Miller on 20 Jun 2010 09:59 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:12:21 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote: > In article <hvl32k$m0b$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>, J G Miller > <miller(a)yoyo.ORG> wrote: >>On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:16:48 -0700, Todd wrote: >> >>> But if that is the way the X11 folks want to phrase it, it is okay >>> with me. Just as long as I know what they are up to so I can adjust >>> for their quirks in speech. >> >>What an insulting remark to people who know, understand and use the >>correct terminology. > > Why is that an insult? You need to, as they say, get back on your meds. So all you can do is post a further insult.
From: John Hasler on 20 Jun 2010 10:15
Kenny McCormack writes: > What we are saying is that it *is* confusing to "newbies". People do > get it - it's not rocket science, as they say - but it is confusing at > first. Telling them that X is "backwards" just confuses them more in the long run. -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA |