From: J G Miller on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:17:54 -0500, John Hasler wrote:

> To most people a client is someone a lawyer represents and a server is
> the person who brings food to the table at a restaurant.

Excellent point! ;)

From: Todd on
On 06/20/2010 08:29 AM, despen(a)verizon.net wrote:

> Totally wrong.
>
> The program supplying the SERVICE is the SERVER.
>
> The program consuming the service is the client.
>
> Very simple:
>
> SERVER -> SERVICE
>
> crunching numbers has nothing to do with the relationship.

I would have to point out that the workstation is the
one who initiate the network packet as state=new, not the
number cruncher.

And, if some other number cruncher goes astray, the
workstation will not display the number cruncher's
output. This because the stray number cruncher
has not "established" a network connection for
stray cruncher.

My point is that the computer that sends out
the state=new packet is not the computer
providing the service. Both computers are
listening. The workstation will *only*
display output from the a particular cruncher
that it directly solicited.

I have had users look at time with glossed
over eyes, up is down and down is up and the
sun rises in the west, when I call XMing
an "X server". When I told them that the X11 folks
reverse the terminology, hen all was right
with the world.

And, I also must point out, that I do understand
why the X11 folks call it the way they do.
They are entitled to call it whatever they want,
as I am entitled to *disagree*

-T
p.s. maybe I should tell the Samba folks that
because the workstations are providing the
service of listening to their output, that
they should call their stuff a "client".
Wounder how they will respond.
From: Todd on
On 06/20/2010 05:54 AM, J G Miller wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:16:48 -0700, Todd wrote:
>
>> But if that is the way the X11 folks want to phrase it, it is okay with
>> me. Just as long as I know what they are up to so I can adjust for
>> their quirks in speech.
>
> What an insulting remark to people who know, understand and use
> the correct terminology.

I am not sure how you took that as an insult.

I do admire that you are able to track the X11 folks
thinking on the matter and explain it to the rest of
us. No insult was intended.
From: Todd on
On 06/20/2010 06:00 AM, J G Miller wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:31:36 -0700, Todd wrote:
>> If I create his keys for him on my server
>
> You do NOT create the keys for him on your server.
>
> He creates his own keys on his own machine, and if it is
> running Windoze, he uses puttygen which comes as part
> of the PuTTY package.
>
> <http://www.chiark.greenend.org.UK/~sgtatham/putty/>
>
> The simple instructions for using Puttygen to create a pair
> of keys, which even a Windoze user should be able to
> follow, are at
>
> <http://the.earth.LI/~sgtatham/putty/0.60/htmldoc/Chapter8.html#pubkey-puttygen>

Thank you for the links!

I thought I had the choice.

If he wanted to create his own keys, he just sends me his public
key. And, he can send it to me in the clear as it is public.

If, for some reason, he wanted me to do it for him, I just generate
a pair of them on my server and sent him his private portion
(out of band to provide security). Optionally, I could
include his public key if he wanted to use it somewhere else.

What am I missing?

Many thanks,
-T
From: Todd on
On 06/20/2010 12:21 PM, Todd wrote:
> On 06/20/2010 06:00 AM, J G Miller wrote:

>> You do NOT create the keys for him on your server.

> I thought I had the choice.

Found the reference:

On 06/18/2010 10:04 PM, Keith Keller wrote:

> Yes. If you don't trust the remote user, you could generate the keys
> and send him the private key

So, do I have the choice?

Many thanks,
-T