From: despen on 20 Jun 2010 11:29 Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> writes: >> No, X11 has it right. The X server is providing _DISPLAY_ >> services to client programs that want something displayed. > > X11 is an interesting play on words. The computer crunching > the numbers (called the server by CUPS, Samba, DHCP, NAMED, > yada, yada, yada) is actually called the "client". > > The computer displaying the result, which is commonly referred > to as the client by everyone else doing such thing, including > Terminal Services, is called the "server". Totally wrong. The program supplying the SERVICE is the SERVER. The program consuming the service is the client. Very simple: SERVER -> SERVICE crunching numbers has nothing to do with the relationship.
From: despen on 20 Jun 2010 11:32 gazelle(a)shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes: > In article <hvl32k$m0b$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.ORG> wrote: >>On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:16:48 -0700, Todd wrote: >> >>> But if that is the way the X11 folks want to phrase it, it is okay with >>> me. Just as long as I know what they are up to so I can adjust for >>> their quirks in speech. >> >>What an insulting remark to people who know, understand and use >>the correct terminology. > > Why is that an insult? You need to, as they say, get back on your meds. The insult is that someone that apparently hasn't thought about about a subject very deeply walks in and thinks the "X11 folks" are arbitrary and quirky. The X11 folks knew what they were doing and did a pretty good job of it.
From: Kenny McCormack on 20 Jun 2010 12:14 In article <iczkyp90t7.fsf(a)verizon.net>, <despen(a)verizon.net> wrote: .... >The insult is that someone that apparently hasn't thought about about a >subject very deeply walks in and thinks the "X11 folks" are arbitrary >and quirky. Except that you are all wrong. Let me assure you that I have almost certainly been doing Unix and X longer than you have. I understand the natural inclination to assume that this new guy you've never heard of just got off the boat last night. I also enjoy needling you about it when you are wrong. >The X11 folks knew what they were doing and did a pretty good job of >it. Nobody doubts or denies that. The fact remains that it is backward vis a vie (most of) the rest of the world. -- > No, I haven't, that's why I'm asking questions. If you won't help me, > why don't you just go find your lost manhood elsewhere. CLC in a nutshell.
From: Kenny McCormack on 20 Jun 2010 12:16 In article <87y6e9rbgk.fsf(a)thumper.dhh.gt.org>, John Hasler <jhasler(a)newsguy.com> wrote: >Todd writes: >> The big guy is listening for unsolicited requests. The lil' guy makes >> the unsolicited requests. What displays on the lil guys screen is >> always as a result of what it solicited from the big guy by its mouse >> movements and keystrokes. > >No. First of all, the server and clients are processes, not machines. That's simply not the way most people think about it (at least in the US). We had a situation involving some foreign-written software, where the guys who wrote it frequently (but not always - i.e., not consistently) referred to Windows services as "servers". -- Just for a change of pace, this sig is *not* an obscure reference to comp.lang.c...
From: John Hasler on 20 Jun 2010 13:17
Kenny McCormack writes: > That's simply not the way most people think about it... To most people a client is someone a lawyer represents and a server is the person who brings food to the table at a restaurant. -- John Hasler jhasler(a)newsguy.com Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA |