From: despen on
Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> writes:

>> No, X11 has it right. The X server is providing _DISPLAY_
>> services to client programs that want something displayed.
>
> X11 is an interesting play on words. The computer crunching
> the numbers (called the server by CUPS, Samba, DHCP, NAMED,
> yada, yada, yada) is actually called the "client".
>
> The computer displaying the result, which is commonly referred
> to as the client by everyone else doing such thing, including
> Terminal Services, is called the "server".

Totally wrong.

The program supplying the SERVICE is the SERVER.

The program consuming the service is the client.

Very simple:

SERVER -> SERVICE

crunching numbers has nothing to do with the relationship.
From: despen on
gazelle(a)shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) writes:

> In article <hvl32k$m0b$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.ORG> wrote:
>>On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:16:48 -0700, Todd wrote:
>>
>>> But if that is the way the X11 folks want to phrase it, it is okay with
>>> me. Just as long as I know what they are up to so I can adjust for
>>> their quirks in speech.
>>
>>What an insulting remark to people who know, understand and use
>>the correct terminology.
>
> Why is that an insult? You need to, as they say, get back on your meds.

The insult is that someone that apparently hasn't thought about about a
subject very deeply walks in and thinks the "X11 folks" are arbitrary
and quirky.

The X11 folks knew what they were doing and did a pretty good job of
it.
From: Kenny McCormack on
In article <iczkyp90t7.fsf(a)verizon.net>, <despen(a)verizon.net> wrote:
....
>The insult is that someone that apparently hasn't thought about about a
>subject very deeply walks in and thinks the "X11 folks" are arbitrary
>and quirky.

Except that you are all wrong. Let me assure you that I have almost
certainly been doing Unix and X longer than you have.

I understand the natural inclination to assume that this new guy you've
never heard of just got off the boat last night. I also enjoy needling
you about it when you are wrong.

>The X11 folks knew what they were doing and did a pretty good job of
>it.

Nobody doubts or denies that.

The fact remains that it is backward vis a vie (most of) the rest of the
world.

--
> No, I haven't, that's why I'm asking questions. If you won't help me,
> why don't you just go find your lost manhood elsewhere.

CLC in a nutshell.

From: Kenny McCormack on
In article <87y6e9rbgk.fsf(a)thumper.dhh.gt.org>,
John Hasler <jhasler(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
>Todd writes:
>> The big guy is listening for unsolicited requests. The lil' guy makes
>> the unsolicited requests. What displays on the lil guys screen is
>> always as a result of what it solicited from the big guy by its mouse
>> movements and keystrokes.
>
>No. First of all, the server and clients are processes, not machines.

That's simply not the way most people think about it (at least in the US).

We had a situation involving some foreign-written software, where the
guys who wrote it frequently (but not always - i.e., not consistently)
referred to Windows services as "servers".

--
Just for a change of pace, this sig is *not* an obscure reference to
comp.lang.c...

From: John Hasler on
Kenny McCormack writes:
> That's simply not the way most people think about it...

To most people a client is someone a lawyer represents and a server is
the person who brings food to the table at a restaurant.
--
John Hasler
jhasler(a)newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA