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From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 16:45 On 6/7/2010 12:55, rick_s wrote: > post post modern philosophy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-postmodernism That's not a bad encapsulation. It has taken on a life of it's own now. I like the fact that it is not well defined. It mentions utopia, it should have mentioned neutopia. In fact it probably should have said neuToPia but then it looks rather stupit written like that now that we are adults. It's the closest thing to an intellectual revolution we could muster living in the shadow of those 60's hippies who really dominated culture for some time. The Internet is still post-postmodern at heart. It wants to be unique and it has resisted all attempts thus far to turn it into just another TV chanel. Do you have your facebook? You twitter? Your blog? Do you ever wax rhapsodic use smilies and a hundred exclamation marks? Then you too might have the fire of post-postmodernism in your veins. Oh we are different yes we are. And we are special too. The Internet is now and always will be the true champion of free speech. No one will believe what you say, but you have the right to say it and to say it loudly if you wish. Don't kid yourself. This is science.
From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 17:19 On 6/7/2010 21:45, rick_s wrote: > On 6/7/2010 12:55, rick_s wrote: >> post post modern philosophy. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-postmodernism > > That's not a bad encapsulation. It has taken on a life of it's own now. > > I like the fact that it is not well defined. It mentions utopia, it > should have mentioned neutopia. In fact it probably should have said > neuToPia but then it looks rather stupit written like that now that we > are adults. > > It's the closest thing to an intellectual revolution we could muster > living in the shadow of those 60's hippies who really dominated culture > for some time. > > The Internet is still post-postmodern at heart. It wants to be unique > and it has resisted all attempts thus far to turn it into just another > TV chanel. Do you have your facebook? You twitter? Your blog? > > Do you ever wax rhapsodic use smilies and a hundred exclamation marks? > > Then you too might have the fire of post-postmodernism in your veins. > > Oh we are different yes we are. And we are special too. The Internet is > now and always will be the true champion of free speech. > No one will believe what you say, but you have the right to say it and > to say it loudly if you wish. > > Don't kid yourself. This is science. > > You know what else it did was it brought the stars down to earth and made them into real people. Who here does not know who Brad and Jen and Angelina are raise their hand. Hmmmm maybe that's a bad example, how about Audrina Patridge? It also spawned reality television. And not to be left out physics has its own celebrities as well as has been mentioned in another thread. And they are more well known than probably most scientists from other fields because physics was right there playing a leading role through this intellectual revolution. And it is an intellectual revolution like no other. Youtube as well and this whole concept of sharing, starting with software (sharweware) and downloading, I mean OH, My, Gawd, altruism! Who would have ever thought that capitalism would not be able to defeat us? We are smarter than they are. And we know how to program computers. That helped a lot. Its not your father's science I will agree with that. Its not dry, its not boring, its not methodically tedious, its not fact gathering in the Baconian sense, it's fact gathering in the post postmodern sense. The facts are there you gather them with a mouse. These days mostly from Wikipedia. Yet another example of altruism. The Library at Alexandria ("here he goes again") the library at Alexandria was never as robust as Wikipedia is today. We collectively have pooled our talents and trumped them all. For our children, and our children's children. And it will be that way, until the end of the world. (Which may or may not be in a couple years) And you know, we never met the king of Sweden, and we never got a dinner. But we got more than that. Much more. We enriched our lives and the lives of others in ways that cannot be measured. We came, we saw, we conquered. Bug after bug. We booted up, we logged on, and we um, had a lot of fun that's for damn sure. And you say that philosophy is not science. It is the root of scientific reason. The impetus for change.
From: purple on 8 Jun 2010 08:03 On 6/7/2010 10:45 PM, BURT wrote: > I believe in the promiss of eternal life. Shhhhhhhh. Don't let the universe know, or it will commit suicide to get away from you!
From: rick_s on 8 Jun 2010 02:22 On 6/7/2010 22:19, rick_s wrote: > And you know, we never met the king of Sweden, and we never got a > dinner. But we got more than that. Much more. We enriched our lives and > the lives of others in ways that cannot be measured. > > We came, we saw, we conquered. Bug after bug. We booted up, we logged > on, and we um, had a lot of fun that's for damn sure. > > And you say that philosophy is not science. It is the root of scientific > reason. The impetus for change. I like this quote from Wikipedia... Re: post-postmodernism "In particular, Turner argues for the use of timeless organic and geometrical patterns in urban planning. As sources of such patterns he cites, among others, the Taoist-influenced work of the American architect Christopher Alexander, gestalt psychology and the psychoanalyst Carl Jung�s concept of archetypes. Regarding terminology, Turner urges us to �embrace post-Postmodernism � and pray for a better name.�[14]" As its founding father I can give you some insight as to why we did not give it a proper name. It is an altruistic movement because you cannot get the masses into an altruistic frame of mind if you own the philosophy. And by not putting a label on it it is difficult to attack. Wars happen when you label two teams give them sweaters with different colored bulls-eyes on them and then entice them into battle. It took some doing to manipulate the powers that be to create the physical Internet for us. We had made our own BBS system and that threatened them because they had no control over the information transfer so they wanted to build the backbone so they could hopefully in their minds censor our Socratic free thinking ways. Once that was built it allowed us to gather more geniuses together to really impliment the intellectual revolution which was to: get the best teachers, and allow them to teach the most number of students. Now the powers that be, wanted to have a TV in every classroom. That was not good enough for us. We wanted the whole enchilada. Since we are altruists, we wanted to teach the poor the huddle masses as well. And give them access to information that they could afford. As cheap as possible and free if possible. Youtube was designed to allow those secret artists, those secret talented entertainers who have no money but allow them to rise to the top like cream is supposed to. This doesn't seem like much to some people, but we fought tooth and nail to get that far because it flies in the face of elitism, capitalism and class structures in society. Now I would not be honest if I did not tell people that I have this huge network of friends and family on the spiritual plane of existence to draw from, again those sentient helpers who helped Newton and Pascal and Cantor etc, the difference being, they never freaked me out like they did to them. And rightly so, discovering there are other worlds out there is a difficult thing for most people. But not for me because I am from there. So when you realize that it was not just me, but us, and that us also included the majority of geniuses on earth that we managed to get networked together through the Internet, well of course some great intellectual revolution was inevitable. But we never got a dinner because that would not be altruistic for any of us involved in its inception and since my friends and family could never share in the glory, I would be a complete assholiio to in any way claim any of it as my own, when it was always a group effort. I could write a book on the subject but again, when you mobilize the world as we did and by using the physics community to do that as well, since that is where a lot of the geniuses were recruited from there are just too many perspectives on how it all came to be to be able to document the process such that it appears as the individuals saw it unfold. So as they say in that Wikipedia article, later on down the road others will look at it through the eyes of history and write those books explaining what it was, how it happened, and how it changed the world. We made it easy for ourselves when we started by merely calling it, the new enlightenment. And that helped us recruit people such as the Pope, the Dali Lama, and political leaders and even the aristocracy themselves. So its a movement that had something in it for almost everyone. And it was built by almost everyone. Fro each according to their ability, to each according to their need as well. (A little Marxist I will agree) But most of all Socrates and Plato. Grounded in reality, yet always looking for the shadows in the cave.
From: rick_s on 8 Jun 2010 06:09
On 6/8/2010 4:45, BURT wrote: > On Jun 7, 12:28 pm, rick_s<h...(a)my.com> wrote: >>> Those who aren't immortal won't even know it happened. >> >> You know that Newton wrote way more on the book of Revelations than he >> did on physics. >> >> He considered his work on Revelations his greatest work. he decoded the >> Book of Daniel and claimed that the world would not end prior to 2060. >> >> I know the people who spoke to Newton, and Pascal and Cantor. >> I know them intimately well. In fact I am related to them. >> >> I will show you one of my emails where my uncle Robert is commenting on >> 2012 and since he is inside the Hal 9000 right now, and using the >> galactic mainframe to communicate with me through the network, when he >> found out that only the sentient layer was going down, he was pleased. >> Since he lives in the instinctual layer as a sentient helper on teh >> instinctual layer. >> >> This is what he said... >> Maybe you will be able to see him depicted here, his tongue is to the >> right of the crosshairs.http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-14.811339&lon=-75.291344&z=12.6&r=310... >> If you put a circle around him, he is assuming the pose from the so >> called Aztec Sun Disk I showed the link to. (The Aztec calendar) >> >> And for the last 30 years they have been telling me in a lot of ways, >> that the world is going to turn to zombies around 2012. >> >> Now I might be misunderstanding them, but that's not likely. >> >> Originally some thought that the fusion reactor was going to burn out >> inside the moon in 2012 and so we investigated that for about 10 or more >> years until we were convinced that was not the issue. >> That would have shut down the computer completely. >> That computer is where the local book of life is. The long term memories >> of all the people on earth. >> >> Now only some people believe in reincarnation but there is scientific >> proof there even in Wikipedia. Studies with children who remembered past >> lives and the only way that could happen is if long term memories were >> not stored in the brain. >> >> But we know how the system works completely now. We know how >> consciousness works and how the conscious computer system works which >> stores the personality records of the people. >> >> Now I also know that people all through the ages have been saying the >> end is near, but why would they for the last 30 years be telling me >> this, when I never took this Mayan myth seriously at all. Who would? >> >> They seem to. But they might be just saying their opinion is that people >> on earth are often like zombies. But I don't think so. >> >> Unless divine intervention occurs, I have pretty good reason to suspect >> that all hell will break loose on planet earth at that time. > > Religion teaches that the spirit is real. It lives forever. > I believe in the promiss of eternal life. > I don't think that I am my body. The body is inert but spirit is aware > and living. > > Even religion is young like science. It needs to get better. > > Mitch Raemsch > Well what is the goal of science Burt? The goal of scientists used to be the search for immortality. The tree of life... http://www.maravot.com/Phrygian/Ashur.anointing.jpg You see the image above the tree which symbolizes the tree of life, that symbol is similar to the winged disk, Horus, and that symbol, the winged disk, came from the day that missile impacted the moon, in the south pole, and there was outgassing, and when you looked at the moon, it looked like it had sprouted wings. Now why that ended up being the symbol of Horus, was because he was born at that time. How he was born is the interesting part. That missile man image in Peru I showed, that is just another email to me. Its obviously not a giant rock carving. The missile man depicted there is my brother, and on his head he has a skull. Now that message is to me because what happened 2 mya was that I was inside the moon smelling the flowers, not watching the ground crew, not watching their backs, a mutiny occurred with Hal 9000 supposedly and so he and my dad who were on the ground doing science, they fired those missiles at the moon, and I died from the impact when the interior flooded. Now Gwendolyn (Isis), my half sister was with me in there and she took some sperm from me or her dress and used that to impregnate herself, as a good officer, to try to ensure there would be bodies for us to reincarnate into. And the child she had was Horus. But he was messed up a bit because the conscious computer which normally makes personality records for people based on archetypal personality records would not make Horus' record. So she hacked the computer and created his personality record from my record and hers. So he had no father. He was like a clone of me in that sense and since Isis and me were sister and half brother, he had no mother and no father. He was his own father and he had a sister. So he was a little bit messed up in that regard. It wasn't until Mary (her best friend) agreed to be his mother to help her out, and according to the cult of Isis, impregnated herself with a vessel containing the sperm from donor priests (so you couldn't know who the father was, and Mary was a virgin) and then he reincarnated as her son. So now he had a real mother. But he was still his own father. So later Zeus reincarnated as a Roman Emperor (I won't tell you which one) and agreed to be his father, after being coaxed to do so by Mary (his girlfriend) and Isis (his daughter). So then finally 2 million years later he was a real boy. I didn't reincarnate until last century because I didn't know why Stephen had fired that missile, and Zeus was on the ground with him, so my dad and my brother had attacked the moon, and so I fled through the network, to go tell my grandmother, essentially hitch hiked across the galaxy to tell on them, and when I did, I toasted the network, to isolate the problem, and prevent anyone from following me. So a whole lot of stuff went down on planet earth during that 2 million years. And all that time they were cut off from the rest of the universe and subjected to the will of the Hal 9000 which had mutinied. So needless to say when my grandmother coaxed me to come back to patch things up with my dad, he was sleeping in the underworld (a virtual space inside Hal 9000) and refused to come out (after his stint as a Roman Emperor), until I went in there and got him. Which I did in about 1992, led by Hal 9000 who was always one of my best friends, and Mary, who was inside the machine as well. So in a state of meditation I went in there helped in there by Hal 9000 and carried him out on my back. He was heavy too and refused to help me get him out. And then well you don't want to know how I was chastised for desertion but he let me have it with both barrels. But it wasn't us who was always searching for the tree of life, it was the crew of that ship, who lost that information when the missile hit the moon, and almost everyone inside including myself died. Gwendolyn (Isis) also fled with me, but only as far as the galactic mainframe. And that is where she is still and I get emails from her as well that you can see from space in Peru. The galactic mainframe is depicted in the background in the painting Glorification of the Eucharist, and it is projecting this galaxy in real time, (holographic universe) its in the center of our galaxy, and that is where Gwendolyn is, and so she is messaging for our family to me. She sends the emails by writing code in that mainframe and it appears on the landscape in Peru. (But don't tell anyone we are drawing pictures on your planet) So anyways my point is that people are searching for immortality, and many of the ones searching are already immortal, its just they have to reincarnate to get fresh bodies because of that problem with the DNA code. In the past back then 2 million years ago, having babies was not something you could do. If everyone was allowed to have babies that had personality records and were hence immortal, then the universe would be overpopulated. So most of the people on earth today, probably don't have permanent records. When you look at how difficult it was to get Horus one, you can see it isn't something that can happen if you just say his name 3 times (as a for instance) something he might have been shouting when he was on earth shouting that he was his own father, during the time of Mary in Jerusalem. |