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From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 07:55 On 6/7/2010 2:41, Inertial wrote: > "rick_s" <here(a)my.com> wrote in message > news:bZXOn.123152$gv4.3494(a)newsfe09.iad... >> On 6/7/2010 2:16, BURT wrote: >> >>>> >>>> Well what about the atomists? What about Aristotle, Galen, Pythagoras? >>> >>> They are considered pre-science but if you must take them into account >>> they came much later than civilization. They were thinking mostly in >>> terms of mistakes. We come from the same history. Science has yet to >>> get away from its legacy of mistakes. >>> >>> Science's greatness is for the future by those Great in Spirit. >>> >>>> >>>> Galen dissected animals, if he was not a scientist what was >>>> he?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen >>> >>> Mitch Raemsch >> >> Well the atomists ... >> "date back to Leucippus and his student Democritus in the fifth >> century BC. These atomists theorized that the natural world consists >> of two fundamental and opposite, indivisible bodies � atoms and void >> (void is mere nothing, or the body's negation). Atoms are >> intrinsically unchangeable and move about the void combining into >> different clusters (and these clusters form differing substances)." >> >> That last sentence seems a little too much like a lucky guess from my >> perspective. I am not saying they had scanning tunneling microscopy, >> but with certainty, people have been getting information in their >> sleep from somewhere. > > Science is not just coming up with interesting ideas (that may indeed be > (close to) correct). That is philosophy. > > Keep in mind you are speaking to the inventor of post post modern philosophy.
From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 08:04 On 6/7/2010 6:13, Inertial wrote: > "rick_s" <here(a)my.com> wrote in message > news:K1%On.44111$Ak3.35860(a)newsfe16.iad... >> On 6/6/2010 21:34, rick_s wrote: >>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sun_stone_detail.JPG >>>> That's the moon. At the bottom where the missile hit. >>>> >>>> We failed. >>>> >>> >>> At the top of that link it says 'The Sun Stone' >>> Really? Is that the sun? >>> Fail. >>> >>> You see we had to get inside there, to the center, which is about 1500 >>> km in the air inside there where there is a fusion reactor keeping that >>> computer going, represented by the face in that rock carving - lets call >>> him Hal 9000 and we had to repair that computer by 2012. >>> >>> Epic fail. >>> >>> That computer has a panel interface, similar to the one described in the >>> science fiction drama Neuromancer, and it has a six finger interface. >>> To do the work we needed 6 fingered androids. >>> We got our six fingered androids in Roswell New Mexico. They were shot >>> down and dissected. >>> >>> Epic fail. Its all over but the screaming. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Now regarding if the so called Gods are helping or hindering us in our >> attempt to make it to Type I civilization (*) why would they be trying >> to hinder us? They would be trying to hinder us because it is way more >> fun to watch us fail then it is to watch us succeed. >> >> (*) http://mkaku.org/home/?page_id=246 >> >> The way in which we fail is we lose our sentience. The world will >> probably go up in flames since the moment we all lose sentience noone >> will minding the switches but not all of it. There will be lots of >> development left, buildings standing etc, and so the work that people >> have done will in a lot of cases be left standing ready for the next >> group of reincarnated people to move in. They will have sentience and >> inherit the earth. But it won't be the people who are here now. >> >> They failed. >> >> Some will make it. Some will not lose sentience. Those are the >> immortals. They will wake up one day around Dec 21 2012 to what is >> being called Z day. >> >> That's one hell of a good show for spectators. > > Umm ... yeah ... interesting. Tell me more about it while I wait for the > van and the men with the special white jackets to come take you away. > > You can't push me around anymore because using MRI they have conclusively shown that people who hear voices, do in fact hear voices. They can see the parts of the brain light up.
From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 08:08 On 6/7/2010 19:29, BURT wrote: >> I think that your definition of science is not broad enough to include > > It is the definition of science not mine. And that is the scientific > method which we have just began to use. Hundreds of years are just a > drop in the bucket by comparison to the future of science. > > Mitch Raemsch Well you better get on that since you only have about 2 years left. I on the other hand have been telling people it's too late for all that, they should be partying like it's 1999 instead.
From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 08:12 On 6/7/2010 4:45, J. Clarke wrote: >> And that is like independence day for humanity. The coming of age. >> To stand up and dare to defy doctrine and investigate through physical >> means. Fact gathering, pure science, and experiment. > > You're coming across as a loony-tune conspiracy theorist. Among other > things, if you think that the pace of space exploration has anything to > do with obstructionism by scientists you really are clueless. Scientists > don't set the budget, politicians do, and politicians can by more votes > with Welfare than the can with a space program. They laughed at Galileo too and he was the 'so called' father of modern science. You know people will swim in frigid waters and spend a trillion dollars to save a baby whale or a seal but they won't spend much on each other. In every city there are probably fewer homeless dogs than there are homeless humans. You need to have eyes to see to see reality without the scales covering your eyes. I am crackpot because we found a 20km long nuclear missile on the far side of the moon right? I thought so.
From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 08:29
In article <66cPn.92915$rE4.59055(a)newsfe15.iad>, here(a)my.com says... > > >On 6/7/2010 2:39, BURT wrote: > >> >> However old you might want to say science is that is still too young >> to amount to much greatness. This is true of civilization itself. It >> is just simply a fact. If it were not true we wouldn't have a better >> future to look forward to. We are in the beginning if you are >> objective to time. >> >> >> Mitch Raemsch > >Well a quick glance at Wikipedia regarding genetics, or any facet of >molecular biology or even eigenfaces, is a humbling experience for most >mortals. > Sorry for mentioning eigenfaces in the same sentence as molecular biology. I should have said Higgs Bosun instead. We will feed Africa some day when we find enough of them. If only we had a bigger more expensive giant collider. |