From: rick_s on
On 6/6/2010 21:34, rick_s wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sun_stone_detail.JPG
>> That's the moon. At the bottom where the missile hit.
>>
>> We failed.
>>
>
> At the top of that link it says 'The Sun Stone'
> Really? Is that the sun?
> Fail.
>
> You see we had to get inside there, to the center, which is about 1500
> km in the air inside there where there is a fusion reactor keeping that
> computer going, represented by the face in that rock carving - lets call
> him Hal 9000 and we had to repair that computer by 2012.
>
> Epic fail.
>
> That computer has a panel interface, similar to the one described in the
> science fiction drama Neuromancer, and it has a six finger interface.
> To do the work we needed 6 fingered androids.
> We got our six fingered androids in Roswell New Mexico. They were shot
> down and dissected.
>
> Epic fail. Its all over but the screaming.
>
>
>

Now regarding if the so called Gods are helping or hindering us in our
attempt to make it to Type I civilization (*) why would they be trying
to hinder us? They would be trying to hinder us because it is way more
fun to watch us fail then it is to watch us succeed.

(*) http://mkaku.org/home/?page_id=246

The way in which we fail is we lose our sentience. The world will
probably go up in flames since the moment we all lose sentience noone
will minding the switches but not all of it. There will be lots of
development left, buildings standing etc, and so the work that people
have done will in a lot of cases be left standing ready for the next
group of reincarnated people to move in. They will have sentience and
inherit the earth. But it won't be the people who are here now.

They failed.

Some will make it. Some will not lose sentience. Those are the
immortals. They will wake up one day around Dec 21 2012 to what is being
called Z day.

That's one hell of a good show for spectators.


From: Inertial on
"rick_s" <here(a)my.com> wrote in message
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> On 6/6/2010 21:34, rick_s wrote:
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sun_stone_detail.JPG
>>> That's the moon. At the bottom where the missile hit.
>>>
>>> We failed.
>>>
>>
>> At the top of that link it says 'The Sun Stone'
>> Really? Is that the sun?
>> Fail.
>>
>> You see we had to get inside there, to the center, which is about 1500
>> km in the air inside there where there is a fusion reactor keeping that
>> computer going, represented by the face in that rock carving - lets call
>> him Hal 9000 and we had to repair that computer by 2012.
>>
>> Epic fail.
>>
>> That computer has a panel interface, similar to the one described in the
>> science fiction drama Neuromancer, and it has a six finger interface.
>> To do the work we needed 6 fingered androids.
>> We got our six fingered androids in Roswell New Mexico. They were shot
>> down and dissected.
>>
>> Epic fail. Its all over but the screaming.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Now regarding if the so called Gods are helping or hindering us in our
> attempt to make it to Type I civilization (*) why would they be trying to
> hinder us? They would be trying to hinder us because it is way more fun to
> watch us fail then it is to watch us succeed.
>
> (*) http://mkaku.org/home/?page_id=246
>
> The way in which we fail is we lose our sentience. The world will probably
> go up in flames since the moment we all lose sentience noone will minding
> the switches but not all of it. There will be lots of development left,
> buildings standing etc, and so the work that people have done will in a
> lot of cases be left standing ready for the next group of reincarnated
> people to move in. They will have sentience and inherit the earth. But it
> won't be the people who are here now.
>
> They failed.
>
> Some will make it. Some will not lose sentience. Those are the immortals.
> They will wake up one day around Dec 21 2012 to what is being called Z
> day.
>
> That's one hell of a good show for spectators.

Umm ... yeah ... interesting. Tell me more about it while I wait for the
van and the men with the special white jackets to come take you away.


From: rick_s on
On 6/6/2010 22:00, rick_s wrote:
> On 6/6/2010 21:34, rick_s wrote:
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sun_stone_detail.JPG
>>> That's the moon. At the bottom where the missile hit.
>>>
>>> We failed.
>>>
>>
>> At the top of that link it says 'The Sun Stone'
>> Really? Is that the sun?
>> Fail.
>>
>> You see we had to get inside there, to the center, which is about 1500
>> km in the air inside there where there is a fusion reactor keeping that
>> computer going, represented by the face in that rock carving - lets call
>> him Hal 9000 and we had to repair that computer by 2012.
>>
>> Epic fail.
>>
>> That computer has a panel interface, similar to the one described in the
>> science fiction drama Neuromancer, and it has a six finger interface.
>> To do the work we needed 6 fingered androids.
>> We got our six fingered androids in Roswell New Mexico. They were shot
>> down and dissected.
>>
>> Epic fail. Its all over but the screaming.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Now regarding if the so called Gods are helping or hindering us in our
> attempt to make it to Type I civilization (*) why would they be trying
> to hinder us? They would be trying to hinder us because it is way more
> fun to watch us fail then it is to watch us succeed.
>
> (*) http://mkaku.org/home/?page_id=246
>
> The way in which we fail is we lose our sentience. The world will
> probably go up in flames since the moment we all lose sentience noone
> will minding the switches but not all of it. There will be lots of
> development left, buildings standing etc, and so the work that people
> have done will in a lot of cases be left standing ready for the next
> group of reincarnated people to move in. They will have sentience and
> inherit the earth. But it won't be the people who are here now.
>
> They failed.
>
> Some will make it. Some will not lose sentience. Those are the
> immortals. They will wake up one day around Dec 21 2012 to what is being
> called Z day.
>
> That's one hell of a good show for spectators.
>
>

No its not actually Zeitgeist Day it is definition 1
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=z-day



From: BURT on
On Jun 6, 12:53 pm, rick_s <h...(a)my.com> wrote:
> On 6/7/2010 4:30, BURT wrote:
>
>
>
> >> And that is like independence day for humanity. The coming of age.
> >> To stand up and dare to defy doctrine and investigate through physical
> >> means. Fact gathering, pure science, and experiment.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I see that for personal reasons; that is for you to remain great; the
> > state of science must be. But this is pure nonsense.
> > Science has just began. The same with a somewhat older beginning of
> > civilization.
>
> > Science isn't gathering facts. Those are data.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> I didn't make myself and I don't even remember signing on or agreeing to
> be born, in fact most of my information is gathered from greats like
> Bacon, Newton, Cantor, Descartes etc.
>
> I think that your definition of science is not broad enough to include

It is the definition of science not mine. And that is the scientific
method which we have just began to use. Hundreds of years are just a
drop in the bucket by comparison to the future of science.

Mitch Raemsch

>
> all the work that people have done that was informal science.
>
> By your definition philosophy is not science. I think philosophy is also
> science. And in fact I would even go further than that and say that
> skinning animals and treating aliments with herbs eons ago still
> required a type of scientific methodology. Trial and error in many cases.
>
> But I will be honest with you that I don't know how to include data that
> is extraordinary. Even small steps small advances in science are
> rigorously attacked by the people in those fields and not always in a
> constructive way. Sure skepticism is part of the scientific method and
> it is necessary to test hypothesis but science would move faster if
> people were more open to change and more open to other ideas and
> possibilities except they can't seem to put aside their own interests
> often financially motivated, and the bulk of scientists should realize
> that often it is that type of motivation that prevents science from
> advancing.
> Science should be more altruistic. People should be able to see through
> these detractors or look at motivation to see if objections are valid
> objections.
>
> I will give you one example. Dentistry. Do you think we can make space
> age materials that can work better than our teeth we have? Stronger
> bacteria resistant, etc? Of course we can but dentists fear they would
> be out of a job. So I can tell you from experience that the stuff they
> put in your mouth is designed to fail.
>
> And that my friend has caused this who entire experiment on earth to fail..
>
> And it has failed.
>
> Now was it doomed to fail? Was it predicted that it would fail?
> Was it an argument of the Gods with some saying they won't fail, and
> some saying they will, with both sides taking sides, one camp trying to
> help mankind succeed and one trying to help man fail?
>
> That is what it might be from one perspective. But perhaps it is just
> that sh*t happens. And we failed because we just couldn't make it type I
> civilization like many other planets in the universe, who just could not
> make it that far.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sun_stone_detail.JPG
> That's the moon.  At the bottom where the missile hit.
>
> We failed.

From: rick_s on
On 6/7/2010 2:39, BURT wrote:

>
> However old you might want to say science is that is still too young
> to amount to much greatness. This is true of civilization itself. It
> is just simply a fact. If it were not true we wouldn't have a better
> future to look forward to. We are in the beginning if you are
> objective to time.
>
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Well a quick glance at Wikipedia regarding genetics, or any facet of
molecular biology or even eigenfaces, is a humbling experience for most
mortals.

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