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From: Inertial on 7 Jun 2010 19:27 "rick_s" <here(a)my.com> wrote in message news:r9cPn.33783$TL5.15406(a)newsfe24.iad... > On 6/7/2010 2:41, Inertial wrote: >> "rick_s" <here(a)my.com> wrote in message >> news:bZXOn.123152$gv4.3494(a)newsfe09.iad... >>> On 6/7/2010 2:16, BURT wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> Well what about the atomists? What about Aristotle, Galen, Pythagoras? >>>> >>>> They are considered pre-science but if you must take them into account >>>> they came much later than civilization. They were thinking mostly in >>>> terms of mistakes. We come from the same history. Science has yet to >>>> get away from its legacy of mistakes. >>>> >>>> Science's greatness is for the future by those Great in Spirit. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Galen dissected animals, if he was not a scientist what was >>>>> he?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen >>>> >>>> Mitch Raemsch >>> >>> Well the atomists ... >>> "date back to Leucippus and his student Democritus in the fifth >>> century BC. These atomists theorized that the natural world consists >>> of two fundamental and opposite, indivisible bodies � atoms and void >>> (void is mere nothing, or the body's negation). Atoms are >>> intrinsically unchangeable and move about the void combining into >>> different clusters (and these clusters form differing substances)." >>> >>> That last sentence seems a little too much like a lucky guess from my >>> perspective. I am not saying they had scanning tunneling microscopy, >>> but with certainty, people have been getting information in their >>> sleep from somewhere. >> >> Science is not just coming up with interesting ideas (that may indeed be >> (close to) correct). That is philosophy. >> >> > > > Keep in mind you are speaking to the inventor of post post modern > philosophy. Nope. I *was* replying to an idiot .. you. Thanks for proving it
From: BURT on 7 Jun 2010 19:31 On Jun 7, 5:08 am, rick_s <h...(a)my.com> wrote: > On 6/7/2010 19:29, BURT wrote: > > >> I think that your definition of science is not broad enough to include > > > It is the definition of science not mine. And that is the scientific > > method which we have just began to use. Hundreds of years are just a > > drop in the bucket by comparison to the future of science. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Well you better get on that since you only have about 2 years left. > I on the other hand have been telling people it's too late for all that, > they should be partying like it's 1999 instead. Please if it is your fate to die forever don't put it on anyone else. Mitch Raemsch
From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 15:04 In article <1ad744f9-44b0-4e96-b1c1-d787ce3f4816(a)x27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, macromitch(a)yahoo.com says... > > >On Jun 7, 5:08�am, rick_s <h...(a)my.com> wrote: >> On 6/7/2010 19:29, BURT wrote: >> >> >> I think that your definition of science is not broad enough to include >> >> > It is the definition of science not mine. And that is the scientific >> > method which we have just began to use. Hundreds of years are just a >> > drop in the bucket by comparison to the future of science. >> >> > Mitch Raemsch >> >> Well you better get on that since you only have about 2 years left. >> I on the other hand have been telling people it's too late for all that, >> they should be partying like it's 1999 instead. > >Please if it is your fate to die forever don't put it on anyone else. > >Mitch Raemsch Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be better than to be an immortal. You know when you are anhilated you won't have to suffer the toils of life anymore. No more need to come back and do things over and over again. I don't know. I am looking forward to Z day in a strange way just because it sounds interesting and you can do anything you want at that point. However it might be better to be born 40 years after when the smell is gone. Imagine a world like ours today only covered with vines. The things to explore. Imagine growing up in a world where everywhere you go are amazing things to find amazing discoveries. With a vastly reduced population. Until you get a tooth ache and can't find a dentist I suppose. Well it's not like we choose our fate on that level. Either you are an immortal or you aren't. We will find out if it happens who is I suppose, but then again next life you won't remember. Those who aren't immortal won't even know it happened.
From: rick_s on 7 Jun 2010 15:28 > Those who aren't immortal won't even know it happened. > You know that Newton wrote way more on the book of Revelations than he did on physics. He considered his work on Revelations his greatest work. he decoded the Book of Daniel and claimed that the world would not end prior to 2060. I know the people who spoke to Newton, and Pascal and Cantor. I know them intimately well. In fact I am related to them. I will show you one of my emails where my uncle Robert is commenting on 2012 and since he is inside the Hal 9000 right now, and using the galactic mainframe to communicate with me through the network, when he found out that only the sentient layer was going down, he was pleased. Since he lives in the instinctual layer as a sentient helper on teh instinctual layer. This is what he said... Maybe you will be able to see him depicted here, his tongue is to the right of the crosshairs. http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-14.811339&lon=-75.291344&z=12.6&r=310&src=msl If you put a circle around him, he is assuming the pose from the so called Aztec Sun Disk I showed the link to. (The Aztec calendar) And for the last 30 years they have been telling me in a lot of ways, that the world is going to turn to zombies around 2012. Now I might be misunderstanding them, but that's not likely. Originally some thought that the fusion reactor was going to burn out inside the moon in 2012 and so we investigated that for about 10 or more years until we were convinced that was not the issue. That would have shut down the computer completely. That computer is where the local book of life is. The long term memories of all the people on earth. Now only some people believe in reincarnation but there is scientific proof there even in Wikipedia. Studies with children who remembered past lives and the only way that could happen is if long term memories were not stored in the brain. But we know how the system works completely now. We know how consciousness works and how the conscious computer system works which stores the personality records of the people. Now I also know that people all through the ages have been saying the end is near, but why would they for the last 30 years be telling me this, when I never took this Mayan myth seriously at all. Who would? They seem to. But they might be just saying their opinion is that people on earth are often like zombies. But I don't think so. Unless divine intervention occurs, I have pretty good reason to suspect that all hell will break loose on planet earth at that time.
From: BURT on 7 Jun 2010 23:45
On Jun 7, 12:28 pm, rick_s <h...(a)my.com> wrote: > > Those who aren't immortal won't even know it happened. > > You know that Newton wrote way more on the book of Revelations than he > did on physics. > > He considered his work on Revelations his greatest work. he decoded the > Book of Daniel and claimed that the world would not end prior to 2060. > > I know the people who spoke to Newton, and Pascal and Cantor. > I know them intimately well. In fact I am related to them. > > I will show you one of my emails where my uncle Robert is commenting on > 2012 and since he is inside the Hal 9000 right now, and using the > galactic mainframe to communicate with me through the network, when he > found out that only the sentient layer was going down, he was pleased. > Since he lives in the instinctual layer as a sentient helper on teh > instinctual layer. > > This is what he said... > Maybe you will be able to see him depicted here, his tongue is to the > right of the crosshairs.http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-14.811339&lon=-75.291344&z=12.6&r=310... > If you put a circle around him, he is assuming the pose from the so > called Aztec Sun Disk I showed the link to. (The Aztec calendar) > > And for the last 30 years they have been telling me in a lot of ways, > that the world is going to turn to zombies around 2012. > > Now I might be misunderstanding them, but that's not likely. > > Originally some thought that the fusion reactor was going to burn out > inside the moon in 2012 and so we investigated that for about 10 or more > years until we were convinced that was not the issue. > That would have shut down the computer completely. > That computer is where the local book of life is. The long term memories > of all the people on earth. > > Now only some people believe in reincarnation but there is scientific > proof there even in Wikipedia. Studies with children who remembered past > lives and the only way that could happen is if long term memories were > not stored in the brain. > > But we know how the system works completely now. We know how > consciousness works and how the conscious computer system works which > stores the personality records of the people. > > Now I also know that people all through the ages have been saying the > end is near, but why would they for the last 30 years be telling me > this, when I never took this Mayan myth seriously at all. Who would? > > They seem to. But they might be just saying their opinion is that people > on earth are often like zombies. But I don't think so. > > Unless divine intervention occurs, I have pretty good reason to suspect > that all hell will break loose on planet earth at that time. Religion teaches that the spirit is real. It lives forever. I believe in the promiss of eternal life. I don't think that I am my body. The body is inert but spirit is aware and living. Even religion is young like science. It needs to get better. Mitch Raemsch |