From: enigma on
On Feb 25, 8:36 pm, Catoni <caton...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 8:36 pm, Coffee in Madrid <gde...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <4b871d1a$0$2364$d94e5...(a)news.iglou.com>,
>
> >  "James" <kingko...(a)iglou.com> wrote:
> > > "Sam Wormley" <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:wrSdnQAO_q2lhhrWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com
> > > > 2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade
> > > >  http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?NewsID=249
>
> > > > By Adam Voiland,
> > > > NASA¹s Earth Science News Team
>
> > > > "2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new
> > > > NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis,
> > > > conducted by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New
> > > > York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the
> > > > warmest year since modern records began in 1880.
>
> > > > "Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade ‹ due to strong
> > > > cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean ‹ 2009 saw a return to
> > > > near-record global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of
> > > > a degree cooler than 2005, the hottest year on record, and tied with
> > > > a cluster of other years ‹ 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 ‹ as the
> > > > second warmest year since recordkeeping began".
>
> > > According to the U.S. National Climate Data Center 2008 temperatures in
> > > the USA were below the 115 year average for most of the country. U.S.
> > > 2009 summer temperatures were also very cool, the 34th coolest since
> > > 1895.
>
> > Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming curve... seen
> > mostly just in the USA.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>    >" Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming
> curve... seen
>
> > mostly just in the USA."
>
>          Plus Canada....  one of the largest countries in the world.

On Feb 25, 8:36 pm, Catoni <caton...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 8:36 pm, Coffee in Madrid <gde...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <4b871d1a$0$2364$d94e5...(a)news.iglou.com>,
>
> > "James" <kingko...(a)iglou.com> wrote:
> > > "Sam Wormley" <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:wrSdnQAO_q2lhhrWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com
> > > > 2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade
> > > > http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?NewsID=249
>
> > > > By Adam Voiland,
> > > > NASA¹s Earth Science News Team
>
> > > > "2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new
> > > > NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis,
> > > > conducted by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New
> > > > York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the
> > > > warmest year since modern records began in 1880.
>
> > > > "Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade ‹ due to strong
> > > > cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean ‹ 2009 saw a return to
> > > > near-record global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of
> > > > a degree cooler than 2005, the hottest year on record, and tied with
> > > > a cluster of other years ‹ 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 ‹ as the
> > > > second warmest year since recordkeeping began".
>
> > > According to the U.S. National Climate Data Center 2008 temperatures in
> > > the USA were below the 115 year average for most of the country. U.S.
> > > 2009 summer temperatures were also very cool, the 34th coolest since
> > > 1895.
>
> > Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming curve... seen
> > mostly just in the USA.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> >" Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming
> curve... seen
>
> > mostly just in the USA."
>
> Plus Canada.... one of the largest countries in the world.

All the news reports of snow fall you are referring to are reports on
WEATHER not CLIMATE.

Below are links to news articles that are reporting on relocated food
crops due to a WARMING CLIMATE.

If the climate was cooling, these news reports would reflect crops
being moved SOUTH you idiot!

NEPAL

Climate change causing food shortages in Nepal
Last Updated: Friday, August 28, 2009 | 2:34 PM ET

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/08/28/nepal-food-climate.html

KOREA

Warmer climate moves tropical fruit cultivation northward

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2907946

USA

US: Warming climate jeopardizes California Fruit and Nut Crops

http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=48109

UK

Temperatures give exotics a warm welcome

Kiwifruit, peaches, grapes and nectarines could
soon be grown in the Garden of England due to
climate change, according to a new report.

Growers in Kent will be able to cultivate crops
that normally flourish in the heat of southern
Europe, South America and Africa, it suggests.

The reason lies in the decline of the winter chill,
meaning prolonged periods when the temperature stays
above freezing but below 7C, essential for the successful
growing and harvesting of many perennial fruits such as
apples, pears, blackcurrants and hops.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/food/news/article.cfm?c_id=206&objectid=10624716


From: JohnM on
On Feb 26, 6:38 am, Catoni <caton...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 9:53 pm, "D. Jones" <derekjones23...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Coffee in Madrid wrote
>
> > > Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming curve... seen
> > > mostly just in the USA.
>
> > More snow means more moisture, which any person who skis alpine can tell you
> > that it means warmer weather, not colder weather.  When it's really cold, it
> > dosn't snow as much or at all, becuause there isn't as much moisture in the
> > air.
>
> > It's moisture in the air that causes lake effect snow in places that are
> > south to colder regions that don't get as much.
>
> > Montreal and Toronto have had little snow this year, but that's because it's
> > been mild.   When it's very cold, there is also less snow.
>
> > The Jet Stream has been very far south this season, bringing arctic air
> > further south to areas in the USA, areas that usually enjoy a warm front from
> > the south to moderate their weather.  As a result, warm moist air and cold
> > arctic air have caused a great deal of snowfall.  While there hasn't been
> > massive snowfalls in areas that normally get it.  It's affected the UK as
> > well.
>
> > The very fact that there has been a lot of snowfall in areas that normally
> > don't receive it has to do with abnormal weather patterns.  It's not a
> > refutation of global warming theory.  
>
> > If some knob comes out of his shotgun shack where the weather this time of
> > year normally doesn't have snow, and declares the snow he sees as a
> > refutation of global warming?
>
> > Well, they need to understand how things work better and stop believing the
> > spin.
>
> > I hear that the "Gomers" really liked Senator Inhofe's "Al Gore Igloo".
>
> > That's their problem.  Alas, they're just too dumb to know.
>
> If some knob comes out of his shotgun shack and sees a bushfire
> and declares the bushfire he sees as a
> proof of global warming?
>
> Well, they need to understand how things work better and stop
> believing the
> spin.

You might do better for the denialists if you were to keep repeating a
mantra that 2009 was cooler than 2005. Some brain-dead someone,
somewhere, would believe that to mean the warming is over. You might
even convince yourself.
From: matt_sykes on
On 26 Feb, 02:36, Coffee in Madrid <gde...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote:
> In article <4b871d1a$0$2364$d94e5...(a)news.iglou.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  "James" <kingko...(a)iglou.com> wrote:
> > "Sam Wormley" <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:wrSdnQAO_q2lhhrWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com
> > > 2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade
> > >  http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?NewsID=249
>
> > > By Adam Voiland,
> > > NASA¹s Earth Science News Team
>
> > > "2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new
> > > NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis,
> > > conducted by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New
> > > York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the
> > > warmest year since modern records began in 1880.
>
> > > "Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade ‹ due to strong
> > > cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean ‹ 2009 saw a return to
> > > near-record global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of
> > > a degree cooler than 2005, the hottest year on record, and tied with
> > > a cluster of other years ‹ 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 ‹ as the
> > > second warmest year since recordkeeping began".
>
> > According to the U.S. National Climate Data Center 2008 temperatures in
> > the USA were below the 115 year average for most of the country. U.S.
> > 2009 summer temperatures were also very cool, the 34th coolest since
> > 1895.
>
> Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming curve... seen
> mostly just in the USA.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


The world has ben gently cooling for 10,000 years. The recent warming
is a blip in this descent.
From: Rob Dekker on

"Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote in message
news:GbIhn.69074$kS2.36604(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>
> "Cold Lazarus" <coldlazarus(a)ymail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.25f102db7fa3a0f4989705(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> Coffee in Madrid wrote
>>>
>>> Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming curve... seen
>>> mostly just in the USA.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The USA takes up 6.5% of the globe in land mass.
>>
>> So I guess if it's cooler in the USA in 2009, it must be cooler all over
>> the
>> world and prove that global warming is just a big hoax.
>>
>> Especially since climate change is measured over decades, not a decade or
>> even
>> a year.
>>
>> Makes sense.
>>
>> Not!
>
> The USA takes up 1.5% of the surface of the globe, 70% is CO2-eating
> algae-infested water. Of course some spin doctor will try to make it
> seem larger than it really is.
>
>

Mmmm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mauna_Loa_Carbon_Dioxide-en.svg
Since algae don't seem to be able to keep up with our CO2 emissions, maybe
we should all grow algae in our ponds...


>


From: Androcles on

"Rob Dekker" <rob(a)verific.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote in message
> news:GbIhn.69074$kS2.36604(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>> "Cold Lazarus" <coldlazarus(a)ymail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.25f102db7fa3a0f4989705(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Coffee in Madrid wrote
>>>>
>>>> Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming curve... seen
>>>> mostly just in the USA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The USA takes up 6.5% of the globe in land mass.
>>>
>>> So I guess if it's cooler in the USA in 2009, it must be cooler all over
>>> the
>>> world and prove that global warming is just a big hoax.
>>>
>>> Especially since climate change is measured over decades, not a decade
>>> or even
>>> a year.
>>>
>>> Makes sense.
>>>
>>> Not!
>>
>> The USA takes up 1.5% of the surface of the globe, 70% is CO2-eating
>> algae-infested water. Of course some spin doctor will try to make it
>> seem larger than it really is.
>>
>>
>
> Mmmm.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mauna_Loa_Carbon_Dioxide-en.svg
> Since algae don't seem to be able to keep up with our CO2 emissions, maybe
> we should all grow algae in our ponds...
>
We can always make the ponds bigger by melting the damned ice,
nothing grows in the ice deserts of Greenland and Antarctica and
no useful food grows on permafrost tundra. Then when the world
is warmer we'll need less fossil fuel to heat our homes in winter, the
algae will keep up. I get tired of chewing on Kentucky Fried Polar
Bear Liver and lichen cooked in seal blubber, don't you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_A