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From: bw on 26 Feb 2010 20:28 "matt_sykes" <zzebowa(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:20902b82-be56-489d-b0ea-f8f80571d8d4(a)x22g2000yqx.googlegroups.com... On 26 Feb, 02:36, Coffee in Madrid <gde...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote: > In article <4b871d1a$0$2364$d94e5...(a)news.iglou.com>, > > > > > > "James" <kingko...(a)iglou.com> wrote: > > "Sam Wormley" <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:wrSdnQAO_q2lhhrWnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com > > > 2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade > > > http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?NewsID=249 > > > > By Adam Voiland, > > > NASA�s Earth Science News Team > > > > "2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new > > > NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis, > > > conducted by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New > > > York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the > > > warmest year since modern records began in 1880. > > > > "Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade < due to strong > > > cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean < 2009 saw a return to > > > near-record global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of > > > a degree cooler than 2005, the hottest year on record, and tied with > > > a cluster of other years < 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 < as the > > > second warmest year since recordkeeping began". > > > According to the U.S. National Climate Data Center 2008 temperatures in > > the USA were below the 115 year average for most of the country. U.S. > > 2009 summer temperatures were also very cool, the 34th coolest since > > 1895. > > Its just a temporary downward blip in the global warming curve... seen > mostly just in the USA.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The world has ben gently cooling for 10,000 years. The recent warming is a blip in this descent. ------------------------------------------------------ About 8000 actually, nice graph here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum And yes, the Holocene climate optimum proves that the current warming is trivial, and that there is no possible "tipping point"
From: Catoni on 27 Feb 2010 07:32 enigma posted: .... opinionated articles from the popular press. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Reply: I wonder if those behind the Gorebull Warming agenda will ever lean away from opinionated articles and blogs and post credible evidence that proves their claims.
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Feb 2010 10:52 On 2/28/10 4:55 AM, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > > Sorry Worm, we have weapon laws that prohibit's each kind of weapon, except > for sports use where I live. > If I imageine you with a machine gun, I'd better warn everybody within your > range and to kill you first, before you can harm anybody. You claim laws "laws that prohibits each kind of weapon, except for sports" and at the same time "warn everybody within your range and to kill you first". I don't know why you even brought up the bit about laws. > Here is a nice 13 minute lay-level presentation of that scenario: > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3318/01.html Peter, you can tell this story to your grandchildren. Teach them how to use automatic weapons to defend themselves and property against the "have nots" in a world of dwindling resources and increasing populations.
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Feb 2010 10:55 On 2/28/10 4:58 AM, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2/26/10 5:22 AM, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: >> >>> >>> Your crystal ball told you? >>> No sources for a "temporary" blip? >> >> Here is just one indicator of the blip! >> >>> Recent changes in a remote Arctic lake are unique within the past 200,000 years >>> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 >>> >>> Yarrow Axforda,1, Jason P. Brinerb, Colin A. Cookec, Donna R. Francisd, Neal Micheluttie, Gifford H. Millera,f, John P. Smole, Elizabeth K. Thomasb, Cheryl R. Wilsone and Alexander P. Wolfec >>> + Author Affiliations >>> >> >> Abstract >> >> The Arctic is currently undergoing dramatic environmental >> transformations, but it remains largely unknown how these changes >> compare with long-term natural variability. > > IOW, they have nothing. I take it you don't have access to the full text.
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Feb 2010 11:25
On 2/28/10 10:24 AM, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > Use your brain, but remember to stick to 8 minutes of warm-up before > posting obviously unintelligent blah blah. NASA to Peter.... CLEANTECHNICA: NASA to Earth: Global Warming Is for Real, Folks! NASA is putting its two cents into the global warming conversation with a new Web site that details the climate change phenomenon, including videos, articles and a huge archive of images http://cl.exct.net/?qs=bb493ab0c40160cae3dcdd3f65e9769a9e5d4b1c53f56c4f6b30056f712da911 Climate Change: Follow The Money Not that money is equivalent to truth, but sometimes it can be an indication of motives. It�s no accident that oil money is behind organizations like the Southeastern Legal Foundation, which is challenging the U.S. EPA on greenhouse gas emissions, to say nothing of Exxon�s history of involvement in climate denialism. Contrast that to the U.S. Department of Defense, which just issued a Quadrennial Defense Review assessing threats to national security that basically put the entire U.S. military on global warming alert. So, follow the money: some companies are betting against global warming (and therefore against our national security if you believe the DoD), but a growing list of other companies are putting their money behind NASA and the DoD by supporting climate legislation and engaging in national sustainability initiatives. See: http://cl.exct.net/?qs=bb493ab0c40160cae3dcdd3f65e9769a9e5d4b1c53f56c4f6b30056f712da911 |