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From: Mxsmanic on 15 May 2010 12:28 GMAN writes: > Because both Microsoft and Apple want us to use THEIR proprietary software > that they have total control over the money flow! Flash doesn't really have any use or place on the Web except as an embedded video player, and even that will change. The sooner it's gone, the better. I'm tired of visiting sites that have a first page that consists of nothing but a Flash animation (mostly in France, though, where the Web is 30 years behind the times).
From: George Kerby on 15 May 2010 12:40 On 5/15/10 1:43 AM, in article 4bee4282$0$1641$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net, "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote: > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >> On 2010-05-14 21:17:04 -0700, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said: >> >>> Mr. Strat <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote: >>>> Rich >>>>> The head of Apple said this?!!! Amazing gall. >>>>> >>>>> BBC: >>>>> It follows a letter from Apple boss Steve Jobs in which he defended his >>>>> firm's decision not to allow Adobe's Flash technology on many of its >>>>> popular products. >>>>> >>>>> Mr Jobs described Adobe's software - used on many websites for video and >>>>> animations - as a "closed system" and "100% proprietary". >>>>> >>>>> "While Adobe's Flash products are widely available, this does not mean >>>>> they >>>>> are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only >>>>> from Adobe." >>>> >>>> Flash is technology that sucks. It needs to go away. >>> >>> Is that what Jobs told you to say? >>> >>>> Even Microsoft has >>>> sided with Jobs. >>> >>> Notice that Flash works quite well on Windows systems. >>> >>> Maybe you're ... "confused". >> >> Actually Flash works just fine on Macs. > > As do several different web browsers. > >> The Flash battle ground for Jobs is the iPhone & iPad. > > Which Apple controls completely. As they should...
From: George Kerby on 15 May 2010 12:45 On 5/15/10 9:18 AM, in article 150520101018056546%nospam(a)nospam.invalid, "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <4beeabf9$0$1645$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer > <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote: > >>>>> The Flash battle ground for Jobs is the iPhone & iPad. >>>> >>>> Which Apple controls completely. >>> >>> versus flash, which adobe controls completely. >> >> That's stupid. Adobe cannot force anybody to use flash, but Apple >> does force people to not use Flash. > > apple doesn't force anyone to buy its products. if you want flash, buy > something else. You are arguing with FishHead - much like arguing with a ficus tree. Pointless.
From: nospam on 15 May 2010 13:04 In article <6pzHn.114240$3k7.1395(a)en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com>, GMAN <Winniethepooh(a)100acrewoods.org> wrote: > >so why would microsoft say flash will go away one day? > Because both Microsoft and Apple want us to use THEIR proprietary software > that they have total control over the money flow! except that they're saying html5 is the future, something that isn't proprietary to either company.
From: GMAN on 15 May 2010 13:15
In article <C81438B1.45177%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >On 5/15/10 1:43 AM, in article 4bee4282$0$1641$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net, "Ray >Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote: > >> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >>> On 2010-05-14 21:17:04 -0700, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said: >>> >>>> Mr. Strat <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote: >>>>> Rich >>>>>> The head of Apple said this?!!! Amazing gall. >>>>>> >>>>>> BBC: >>>>>> It follows a letter from Apple boss Steve Jobs in which he defended his >>>>>> firm's decision not to allow Adobe's Flash technology on many of its >>>>>> popular products. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mr Jobs described Adobe's software - used on many websites for video and >>>>>> animations - as a "closed system" and "100% proprietary". >>>>>> >>>>>> "While Adobe's Flash products are widely available, this does not mean >>>>>> they >>>>>> are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only >>>>>> from Adobe." >>>>> >>>>> Flash is technology that sucks. It needs to go away. >>>> >>>> Is that what Jobs told you to say? >>>> >>>>> Even Microsoft has >>>>> sided with Jobs. >>>> >>>> Notice that Flash works quite well on Windows systems. >>>> >>>> Maybe you're ... "confused". >>> >>> Actually Flash works just fine on Macs. >> >> As do several different web browsers. >> >>> The Flash battle ground for Jobs is the iPhone & iPad. >> >> Which Apple controls completely. > >As they should... > That type of control and thinking went out of style in the 80's and is what drove the Atarii ST and AMIGA markets into the ground. Its even what killed the old TI 99/4a, not letting others make carts for the computer. |