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From: nospam on 16 May 2010 15:55
In article <4bf0487c$0$1591$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS
<scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote:

> > actually, the mac had slots with the mac ii in 1987, just 3 years after
> > it's introduction, and roughly a decade before pci slots. the pc market
> > is what it is because of microsoft's predatory tactics and apple's
> > mismanagement.
>
> The closed architecture of the first Mac could not have come at a worse
> time for Apple. By 1987, when they came out with NuBus for the Mac II it
> was too late.

nonsense. back then, mac market share was growing. as i said, it was
illegal business tactics and mismanagement that screwed apple.

> Incidentally, the Mac II was one of those clandestine
> projects done without the knowledge of the head honcho who didn't want
> any expansion slots.

where *do* people come up with this stuff. the head honcho left the
company two years earlier.

the mac ii was driven largely by jean louis gassee, who had 'openmac'
as his license plate.

> I worked for a company that made network cards for the Apple II (and the
> Commodore Pet!) back in 1979. There were hundreds of companies making
> add-on cards of various types for stuff like networking, industrial
> control, and commercial applications. When the ISA based PC came out
> they moved to that platform, and dropped Apple since of course the Mac
> had no expansion slots. We did PCI cards and Microchannel cards, but the
> market share for Apple by then didn't warrant NuBus cards.

macs had localtalk built-in, so it didn't really need networking cards
until ethernet was common, at which point ethernet was built-in.

> Besides the lack of expansion in the early Mac, Apple really suffered
> with their early networking approach of using the agonizingly slow
> AppleTalk at 230 kb/s, while the ROW was using Arcnet at 2.5 Mb/s.

and how much did that cost? localtalk may have been slow but it was
pretty good at the time, very inexpensive (ordinary telephone cord
worked), and *very* easy to set up.
From: Mxsmanic on 16 May 2010 16:20
Ray Fischer writes:

> Because of what you wrote...
>
> "Flash doesn't really have any use or place on the Web except as
> an embedded video player"

It's a true statement. The main reason why Flash is still around is that it is
widely used as an embedded media player. The other uses are just fluff, with
Flash just getting in the way more than anything else.
From: Mxsmanic on 16 May 2010 16:24
nospam writes:

> nonsense. back then, mac market share was growing. as i said, it was
> illegal business tactics and mismanagement that screwed apple.

Are there still people who believe that urban legend?

Apple shafted itself. It could have been number one, but it made itself number
two through its own deliberate management decisions.
From: Mxsmanic on 16 May 2010 16:25
Ray Fischer writes:

> So what?

Some people want CPU power to spare, and long-lasting battery charges. A CPU
hog conflicts with that goal.
From: nospam on 16 May 2010 16:39
In article <84l0v5ti7vq8suap1ju4codpb55q1of32m(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic
<mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Some people want CPU power to spare, and long-lasting battery charges. A CPU
> hog conflicts with that goal.

the joojoo tablet when running flash, drops from a rated 5 hour battery
life to 2.5 hours, *half* of its already lousy battery life.
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