From: Mxsmanic on
GMAN writes:

> That type of control and thinking went out of style in the 80's and is what
> drove the Atarii ST and AMIGA markets into the ground. Its even what killed
> the old TI 99/4a, not letting others make carts for the computer.

Well, it hasn't put Apple out of business yet, although it guarantees that
they'll have a tiny market share wherever there is any real competition.

Apple will fold after Steve Jobs dies, since he's the entire company.
Microsoft is already going down that path (Bill's not dead, but he no longer
runs the company, and it shows).
From: Peter on
"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
news:2010051508240431729-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2010-05-15 05:12:00 -0700, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> said:
>
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2010051421461222503-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom...
>>> On 2010-05-14 21:17:04 -0700, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:
>>>
>>
>>> Actually Flash works just fine on Macs.
>>>
>>> The Flash battle ground for Jobs is the iPhone & iPad. It was initiated
>>> when Adobe hesitated on developing Flash for the iPhone 2 years ago.
>>> Jobs, obviously slighted has voiced his displeasure with Adobe,
>>> resulting in the deadlock.
>>> The underlying issue being Apple control of Flash games for iPhone, iPod
>>> Touch, and the iPad.
>>> I have survived without them.
>>>
>>
>> I seem to be surviving without Flash games for any platform, and the
>> iPhone iPod and iPad. though I must admit the Droid phone is tempting me.
>
> I am using Droid on Verizon, with a Motorola "Devour" and it has been
> problem free.
> Slide out keyboard, makes things much better for me, than touch screen
> phones. E-mail works just fine. set up is simple, interfaces with my Macs,
> without issue. So far I am impressed.

That purchase must be cleared with the minister of communications.

>
> Even though I am a Mac user I remain iPhone free, as the dreaded AT&T
> service remains conspicuous in its absence in the wilds of the California
> Central Coast.
>

Folks I know here with ATT service all say it really sucks, in many parts of
the East Coast too.
We got rid of ATT years ago, for a similar reason. The final straw was when
I was charged with roaming fees for calls made from a few blocks away from
other calls.


--
Peter

From: Allen on
Mxsmanic wrote:
> GMAN writes:
>
>> That type of control and thinking went out of style in the 80's and is what
>> drove the Atarii ST and AMIGA markets into the ground. Its even what killed
>> the old TI 99/4a, not letting others make carts for the computer.
>
> Well, it hasn't put Apple out of business yet, although it guarantees that
> they'll have a tiny market share wherever there is any real competition.
>
> Apple will fold after Steve Jobs dies, since he's the entire company.
> Microsoft is already going down that path (Bill's not dead, but he no longer
> runs the company, and it shows).
Oh, how it shows! If they replace the Screamer soon there won't be any
more MS.
Allen
From: Bruce on
On Sat, 15 May 2010 17:15:56 GMT, Winniethepooh(a)100acrewoods.org
(GMAN) wrote:
>In article <C81438B1.45177%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On 5/15/10 1:43 AM, in article 4bee4282$0$1641$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net, "Ray
>>Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Which Apple controls completely.
>>
>>As they should...
>>
>That type of control and thinking went out of style in the 80's and is what
>drove the Atarii ST and AMIGA markets into the ground. Its even what killed
>the old TI 99/4a, not letting others make carts for the computer.


Similar thinking was/is killing Sony.

From: George Kerby on



On 5/15/10 12:15 PM, in article
iFAHn.114244$3k7.22308(a)en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com, "GMAN"
<Winniethepooh(a)100acrewoods.org> wrote:

> In article <C81438B1.45177%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, George Kerby
> <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/15/10 1:43 AM, in article 4bee4282$0$1641$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net, "Ray
>> Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2010-05-14 21:17:04 -0700, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said:
>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Strat <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>> The head of Apple said this?!!! Amazing gall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BBC:
>>>>>>> It follows a letter from Apple boss Steve Jobs in which he defended his
>>>>>>> firm's decision not to allow Adobe's Flash technology on many of its
>>>>>>> popular products.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mr Jobs described Adobe's software - used on many websites for video and
>>>>>>> animations - as a "closed system" and "100% proprietary".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "While Adobe's Flash products are widely available, this does not mean
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only
>>>>>>> from Adobe."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flash is technology that sucks. It needs to go away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that what Jobs told you to say?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Even Microsoft has
>>>>>> sided with Jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice that Flash works quite well on Windows systems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you're ... "confused".
>>>>
>>>> Actually Flash works just fine on Macs.
>>>
>>> As do several different web browsers.
>>>
>>>> The Flash battle ground for Jobs is the iPhone & iPad.
>>>
>>> Which Apple controls completely.
>>
>> As they should...
>>
> That type of control and thinking went out of style in the 80's and is what
> drove the Atarii ST and AMIGA markets into the ground. Its even what killed
> the old TI 99/4a, not letting others make carts for the computer.
>
>

And has made AAPL the third largest company in the USA...

<http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/04/exxon-microsoft-apple-wal-mart/>

I don't give a damn about 'style', either. What works - works for me!

So "that kind of thinking" has kept their shareholders, employees and
customers VERY happy...

<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apple-leads-smartphone-customer-satisfaction/
25625>

So, looks like you are the 'fossil' here, not AAPL.

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