From: JimboCat on
On Feb 18, 11:13 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of the calendar,
> and attempting in passing to create a more perfect Church calendar, I
> say the following:
[snip]
> 6. This is surely the best possible arrangement that can be made,
> without disturbing the cycle of weeks or that of calendar days
> inherited from the Romans.

Nonsense! JRR Tolkien's creation of the "Shire Reckoning" is clearly
the ultimate in rationality and convenience for a perpetual calendar.

The year is divided into twelve months of thirty days each, with five
additional days to make up a full 365-day year; six additional days in
leap years. The additional days are not part of any week or month, so
any date always falls on the same day of the week. And, of course,
these additional days are always holidays, accompanied by festive
eating and drinking in what my generation tends still to call "mass
quantities".

I didn't find a really good explanation of the system in a quick
google search. Read the Appendix to JRRT's /The Lord of the Rings/ for
the complete low-down.

Jim Deutch (JimboCat)
--
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is not alone malevolent
but ignorant to boot.
He hasn't even got the sense
to state his so-called evidence
in terms I can refute.
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From: Andrew Usher on
On Feb 19, 3:06 am, R H Draney <dadoc...(a)spamcop.net> wrote:

> (On a more serious note, I'd like to see an actual printed calendar for Andrew's
> proposed system...I have a gnawing unease that it may actually make Friday the
> 13th *more* common than it is already)....

I did not investigate this, as it is a useless superstition -
Nevertheless, I can see now that it would make Fridays the 13th
slightly less common than now.

Andrew Usher
From: Andrew Usher on
On Feb 19, 3:12 am, John Atkinson <johna...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:

> > I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it.
>
> But, the whole point of Easter is that it has a full moon! You might as
> well scrap the whole thing otherwise. Or are you suggesting that we
> only take holidays at Easter every four years or so, when your “settled”
> date just happens to correspond with the right lunar phase?

I was taking into account the words of the Catholic Church that it
would not be objectionable to fix Easter to a particular Sunday. But
it must be a Sunday, and so the best that can be done is a range of 7
days, which my proposal accomplishes - Apr.5-11, which is exactly the
middle of the current range.

Andrew Usher
From: Andrew Usher on
On Feb 19, 11:49 am, Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote:

> > I think it was two years ago that the first night of Passover was on
> > Holy Thursday (or vice versa), which precisely reproduced the
> > historical occasion.
>
> Oh, that's what you meant. I though that you were talking about
> Passover and Easter actually occurring on the same day. But if Holy
> Thursday is taken to run from midnight to midnight (rather than
> sundown to sundown), I don't think that that's possible, since the
> Hebrew calendar doesn't let Pesach fall on a Friday (with the seder on
> the preceding Thursday night).

In Christ's time, there was no such rule, clearly.

Andrew Usher
From: Andrew Usher on
On Feb 19, 12:08 pm, JimboCat <103134.3...(a)compuserve.com> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 11:13 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of the calendar,
> > and attempting in passing to create a more perfect Church calendar, I
> > say the following:
> [snip]
> > 6. This is surely the best possible arrangement that can be made,
> > without disturbing the cycle of weeks or that of calendar days
> > inherited from the Romans.
>
> Nonsense! JRR Tolkien's creation of the "Shire Reckoning" is clearly
> the ultimate in rationality and convenience for a perpetual calendar.
>
> The year is divided into twelve months of thirty days each, with five
> additional days to make up a full 365-day year; six additional days in
> leap years. The additional days are not part of any week or month, so
> any date always falls on the same day of the week.

I said precisely that there must not be days outside the week.

Andrew Usher