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From: António Marques on 19 Feb 2010 09:49 Last time I looked, Symmetry454 was the epitome of calendar reform: http://individual.utoronto.ca/kalendis/symmetry.htm
From: 7 on 19 Feb 2010 10:11 Andrew Usher wrote: > Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of the calendar, > and attempting in passing to create a more perfect Church calendar, I > say the following: > > 1. That Christmas day should be fixed to a Sunday, and this should be > the Sunday between Dec. 21 and 27, and that in all civilised countries > the Monday should be considered a holiday, or the Saturday if not > normally. What about Thor's Day, or Thursday? I don't like it where its at. Can we move it to Friday? So I get that Friday feelin a lot earlier. And while you are at it, can you switch Monday with Wednesday so that Monday feels more like a Wednesday to avoid the dreaded Monday mornin feelin. > 2. That similarly Easter day should be fixed to the Sunday which is 15 > weeks following Christmas. > > 3. That the leap year rule be changed to have a leap year occur every > fourth save that it be delayed when the leap year would start on a > Thursday, and that this gives 7 leap years in every 29, which is near > enough. > > 4. That the perpetual calendar can be made, by considering the first > day of the year of weeks to occur on the Sunday after the Assumption, > and if this is the first possible calendar day, it is called week 1, > and otherwise week 2, and every year runs through week 53. And this > calendar ensures that everything can be fixed to a day of a certain > week, in particular the American Thanksgiving must be made 31 days > before Christmas. > > 6. This is surely the best possible arrangement that can be made, > without disturbing the cycle of weeks or that of calendar days > inherited from the Romans. > > Andrew Usher
From: António Marques on 19 Feb 2010 10:22 Zhang Dawei wrote (19-02-2010 15:08): > António Marques wrote: > >> Last time I looked, Symmetry454 was the epitome of calendar reform: >> >> http://individual.utoronto.ca/kalendis/symmetry.htm > > I wonder whether this is supposed to be a proposal for a universal > change in the calendar, though? If it is, then I question the need for > every country in the world to celebrate purely USA political and > social events (the yellow shaded days), which were said to be > "permanently fixed". On that basis alone, I would say it resoundingly > fails. How can you even *think* that is the case?? How can you even *notice* the holidays shown are US-specific? Obviously the US holidays are there to illustrate how it works, not to be used universally. Likewise the numerals and month names. Sheesh.
From: Antares 531 on 19 Feb 2010 10:23 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:02:47 -0800 (PST), Halmyre <flashgordonreceding(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On 19 Feb, 04:58, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Andrew Usher" <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:65e2a2e7-1aef-4872-97a7-360fa6a10a6a(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of the calendar, >> > and attempting in passing to create a more perfect Church calendar, I >> > say the following: >> >> > 1. That Christmas day should be fixed to a Sunday, and this should be >> > the Sunday between Dec. 21 and 27, and that in all civilised countries >> > the Monday should be considered a holiday, or the Saturday if not >> > normally. >> >> > 2. That similarly Easter day should be fixed to the Sunday which is 15 >> > weeks following Christmas. >> >> > 3. That the leap year rule be changed to have a leap year occur every >> > fourth save that it be delayed when the leap year would start on a >> > Thursday, and that this gives 7 leap years in every 29, which is near >> > enough. >> >> > 4. That the perpetual calendar can be made, by considering the first >> > day of the year of weeks to occur on the Sunday after the Assumption, >> > and if this is the first possible calendar day, it is called week 1, >> > and otherwise week 2, and every year runs through week 53. And this >> > calendar ensures that everything can be fixed to a day of a certain >> > week, in particular the American Thanksgiving must be made 31 days >> > before Christmas. >> >> > 6. This is surely the best possible arrangement that can be made, >> > without disturbing the cycle of weeks or that of calendar days >> > inherited from the Romans. >> >> > Andrew Usher >> >> The calendar has several sources, not just the Rome and the onewe habe in >> fine as it is > >I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it. > Back before it became "Easter" and was still a celebration of Queen Ishtar's glory, with the rabbit and the egg as fertility symbols, what date was used? Gordon
From: Yusuf B Gursey on 19 Feb 2010 10:35
On Feb 19, 4:34 am, James Hogg <Jas.H...(a)gOUTmail.com> wrote: > John Atkinson wrote: > > Halmyre wrote: > >> On 19 Feb, 04:58, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> "Andrew Usher" <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>>news:65e2a2e7-1aef-4872-97a7-360fa6a10a6a(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.... > > >>>> Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of the > >>>> calendar, and attempting in passing to create a more perfect > >>>> Church calendar, I say the following: 1. That Christmas day > >>>> should be fixed to a Sunday, and this should be the Sunday > >>>> between Dec. 21 and 27, and that in all civilised countries the > >>>> Monday should be considered a holiday, or the Saturday if not > >>>> normally. 2. That similarly Easter day should be fixed to the > >>>> Sunday which is 15 weeks following Christmas. 3. That the leap > >>>> year rule be changed to have a leap year occur every fourth > >>>> save that it be delayed when the leap year would start on a > >>>> Thursday, and that this gives 7 leap years in every 29, which > >>>> is near enough. 4. That the perpetual calendar can be made, by > >>>> considering the first day of the year of weeks to occur on the > >>>> Sunday after the Assumption, and if this is the first possible > >>>> calendar day, it is called week 1, and otherwise week 2, and > >>>> every year runs through week 53. And this calendar ensures that > >>>> everything can be fixed to a day of a certain week, in > >>>> particular the American Thanksgiving must be made 31 days > >>>> before Christmas. 6. This is surely the best possible > >>>> arrangement that can be made, without disturbing the cycle of > >>>> weeks or that of calendar days inherited from the Romans. > >>>> Andrew Usher > >>> The calendar has several sources, not just the Rome and the onewe > >>> habe in fine as it is > >> I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it. > > > But, the whole point of Easter is that it has a full moon! You might > > as well scrap the whole thing otherwise. Or are you suggesting that > > we only take holidays at Easter every four years or so, when your > > settled date just happens to correspond with the right lunar phase? > > My Book of Common Prayer makes things easy by pointing out that "the > moon referred to in the definition of Easter Day is not the actual moon > of the heavens, but the Calendar Moon, or Moon of the Lunar Cycle, which > is counted as full on its fourteenth day, reckoned from the day of the > Calendar New Moon inclusive." Also, in a Bissextile Year "the number of > Sundays after Epiphany will be the same, as if Easter Day had fallen one > day later than it really does." the Orthodox (Eastern) churches have a slightly different system. dunno exactly what it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter Easter .... Easter is a moveable feast, meaning it is not fixed in relation to the civil calendar. The First Council of Nicaea (325) established the date of Easter as the first Sunday after the full moon (the Paschal Full Moon) following the vernal equinox.[3] Ecclesiastically, the equinox is reckoned to be on March 21 (regardless of the astronomically correct date), and the "Full Moon" is not necessarily the astronomically correct date. The date of Easter therefore varies between March 22 and April 25. Eastern Christianity bases its calculations on the Julian Calendar whose March 21 corresponds, during the twenty-first century, to April 3 in the Gregorian Calendar, in which calendar their celebration of Easter therefore varies between April 4 and May 8. > > What could be simpler? > > -- > James |