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From: Yusuf B Gursey on 23 Feb 2010 12:15 On Feb 23, 10:22 am, António Marques <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: > Yusuf B Gursey wrote (23-02-2010 15:01): > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 7:26 am, António Marques<antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: > >> Yusuf B Gursey wrote (23-02-2010 11:17): > > >>> speaking of Eastern Churches, Easter is more important in Eastern > >>> Churches. significantly, modern Turkish borrows "Easter" from Greek > >>> (Paskalya) and "Christmass" from French (Noel). > > >> What you certainly mean is that the Middle East isn't as dechristianised as > >> the US. > > >>> also Monophysite Churches (Armenian Orthodox, Jacobite Syrian, Coptic) > >>> reject Dec. 25 as the date of Christmass. > > >> It's miaphysite! > > > no, it's Monophysite (Mono, from one, Christ having only a divine > > nature). > > No, it's miaphysite! (Mia, united) > Christ having only a divine nature (monophysitism) is a heresy to all of > Latins, Greeks, Armenians, Jacobites, Copts and Assyrians. > > >> Again, the date of Christmas isn't religiously significant, other than being > >> at that time of the year. The fact that different churches use different > >> dates doesn't mean they are in disagreement (as your 'reject' implies), any > > > IIRC they considered Dec. 25 as having pagan implications. > > Only the Armenians use a different date, does that mean that the Copts, who > they are in communion with, are under pagan influence? Either way, it's not OK, maybe it's just the Armenians and the Copts just due to calendar, but the Armenians did object (better word?) to Dec. 25. I know very well in Turkey two different Christmas greetings (it's not a holiday there) are issued by government. > a religiously signfiicant matter, just a convention. > > > > >> more than having different feast days for the same saint. > >> The only religiously significant dates are those of the moveabe cycle. Over > >> which there isn't much disagreement other than what calendar to use. > - Show quoted text -
From: Hatunen on 23 Feb 2010 12:27 On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:38:57 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban1(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >What I want to know is what do they do with all this daylight they've >saved? I'm not getting it, and I think they're using my daylight for >nefarious activities. Benjamin Franklin first proposed daylight time (it's not really called Daylight *Savings* Time anymore). I've hear it commented that daylight time was invented by an Amrican Indian who, finding his blanket too short to reach his chin, cut off the lower end of the blanket and sewed it onto the upper end. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Hatunen on 23 Feb 2010 12:28 On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:05:29 -0800 (PST), Paul Cardinale <pcardinale(a)volcanomail.com> wrote: >Are you capable of writing anything that doesn't demonstrate asounding >ignorance and arrogance? Who is "you"? -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
From: Yusuf B Gursey on 23 Feb 2010 12:28 On Feb 23, 12:15 pm, Yusuf B Gursey <y...(a)theworld.com> wrote: > On Feb 23, 10:22 am, António Marques <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: > > > > > > > Yusuf B Gursey wrote (23-02-2010 15:01): > > > > On Feb 23, 7:26 am, António Marques<antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: > > >> Yusuf B Gursey wrote (23-02-2010 11:17): > > > >>> speaking of Eastern Churches, Easter is more important in Eastern > > >>> Churches. significantly, modern Turkish borrows "Easter" from Greek > > >>> (Paskalya) and "Christmass" from French (Noel). > > > >> What you certainly mean is that the Middle East isn't as dechristianised as > > >> the US. > > > >>> also Monophysite Churches (Armenian Orthodox, Jacobite Syrian, Coptic) > > >>> reject Dec. 25 as the date of Christmass. > > > >> It's miaphysite! > > > > no, it's Monophysite (Mono, from one, Christ having only a divine > > > nature). > > > No, it's miaphysite! (Mia, united) > > Christ having only a divine nature (monophysitism) is a heresy to all of > > Latins, Greeks, Armenians, Jacobites, Copts and Assyrians. > > > >> Again, the date of Christmas isn't religiously significant, other than being > > >> at that time of the year. The fact that different churches use different > > >> dates doesn't mean they are in disagreement (as your 'reject' implies), any > > > > IIRC they considered Dec. 25 as having pagan implications. > > > Only the Armenians use a different date, does that mean that the Copts, who > > they are in communion with, are under pagan influence? Either way, it's not > > OK, maybe it's just the Armenians and the Copts just due to calendar, anyway, the Copts use a wholly different calendar altogether, with different months (the ancient Egyptian ones) and a different era (that of Diolectian, christianized as the "Era of the Martyrs"). at nay rate, their observance of Christmas falls in January as well. > but the Armenians did object (better word?) to Dec. 25. I know very > well in Turkey two different Christmas greetings (it's not a holiday > there) are issued by government. > > > > > a religiously signfiicant matter, just a convention. > > > >> more than having different feast days for the same saint. > > >> The only religiously significant dates are those of the moveabe cycle. Over > > >> which there isn't much disagreement other than what calendar to use. > >
From: Hatunen on 23 Feb 2010 12:30
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:05:52 -0000, jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >In sci.physics Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Peter Moylan wrote: >>> Andrew Usher wrote: >>> >>> > I chose the Christian holidays because they are international, >>> >>> ??? >> >> They're more so than any other holidays, are they not? >> >> Andrew Usher > >Nope, New Years is celebrated by almost all countries and cultures. But not always on January first. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen(a)cox.net) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |