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From: Robert Bannister on 23 Feb 2010 20:24 Brian M. Scott wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:43 +0800, Robert Bannister > <robban1(a)bigpond.com> wrote in > <news:7ugpr7Fll6U1(a)mid.individual.net> in > sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > >> Brian M. Scott wrote: > >>> R H Draney wrote: > >>> [...] > >>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>> Daylight Saving Time.... > >>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r > >>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >>> year round. > >> I think you should go and live in Inverness until you >> change your mind. > > I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As > far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time > of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher > latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no > disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the > morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the > benefit of as much daylight as possible. The eternal rift between morning and evening people. I get very ratty when politicians force me to get up in the dark more often than need be, whereas I think dinner is best eaten when it is dark outside. -- Rob Bannister
From: Robert Bannister on 23 Feb 2010 20:33 Brian M. Scott wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:47:50 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" > <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in > <news:f7fabd1d-91cc-413d-96ca-38c1f6ba3d09(a)f8g2000vba.googlegroups.com> > in > sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > >> On Feb 23, 12:52 am, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:32:03 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >>> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote in >>> <news:ad442cf6-ce22-4ffe-b05b-786b865fb3fc(a)g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> >>> in >>> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > >>>> On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott" >>>> <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>> [...] > >>>>> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >>>>> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >>>>> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >>>>> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >>>>> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >>>>> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >>>>> benefit of as much daylight as possible. > >>>> The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school >>>> in the dark. > >>> I hadn't noticed that DST would make much difference to that >>> in many of the places that I've lived. > >> Who was it said "I couldn't care less how dark it is in the morning"? > > I did. So? 'Morning' covers rather a lot, and the fact > remains that at the time of day that kids are going to > school, DST doesn't necessarily make a great deal of > difference in the amount of daylight. It depends where you live and what time school starts and finishes in your area. To get to school by 8 or 8:15 am, some country kids need to be on the school bus by 7. Now, when daylight saving was first introduced, it only covered the summer months, but then they had to tamper with it, so that by the end of the period now, 7 am is before sunrise. A potentially worse problem is that in coming home at what is by sun time 2 pm, the children are travelling at the hottest time of the day. (Western Australian schools operate from somewhere between 8 and 8:30 am to between 2:45 and 3:15 pm. Pre-primaries finish earlier, of course.) -- Rob Bannister
From: Robert Bannister on 23 Feb 2010 20:34 J. Clarke wrote: > Dunno about the rest of the world, but in the US court-ordered busing > has most kids riding the bus to school anyway, so what difference does > it make? They have to walk to and from the place where the bus stops and often have to wait. -- Rob Bannister
From: Andrew Usher on 23 Feb 2010 20:40 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Feb 23, 7:09 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Mike Barnes wrote: > > > Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com>: > > > >'One' is not, grammatically, a pronoun. It is a nominalised adjective > > > >(the number one) that is used in place of a pronoun. > > > > > That's a matter of perception rather than fact. Most people's perception > > > is different from yours, I suspect. > > > > Mine is based on logic. One declines like a noun, not a pronoun, and > > is clearly identical to the number one, which is a noun (adjective), > > not a pronoun. > > It's already been noted that this thread is widely crossposted. > > Perhaps the mathematicians and physicists should leave the linguistics > to the linguists. I have as much ability to analyse language as any of your people! Andrew Usher
From: R H Draney on 23 Feb 2010 20:41
Robert Bannister filted: > >The eternal rift between morning and evening people. I get very ratty >when politicians force me to get up in the dark more often than need be, >whereas I think dinner is best eaten when it is dark outside. Quite right...I had breakfast yesterday at noon, and dinner at midnight....r -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle |