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From: Andrew Usher on 23 Feb 2010 20:47 j...(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > New Year is not among the holidays Kirshenbaum mentioned. I exclude it > > from my consideration as by its nature it can't be fixed to a > > particular day of the week. > > > > Andrew Usher > > Neither can most holidays. So? > The original issues were international and total recognition. Whose issues? I never said _total_ recognition, only widespread recognition. You can't deny that knowledge of Christmas and Easter is pretty widespread, and basically universal in the Western world even among non-Christians. Andrew Usher
From: Andrew Usher on 23 Feb 2010 20:51 Robert Bannister wrote: > > 'One' is not, grammatically, a pronoun. It is a nominalised adjective > > (the number one) that is used in place of a pronoun. > > Are you positive it isn't related to French "on" (as opposed to French > "un")? Well, it certainly could be, and that is the usual derivation given, although I don't think there's any direct proof. Anglo-French 'on' and Middle English 'one' would be very close in pronunciation, both being some variant of [On]. But still, I think if that was the origin it was assimilated into English as if it were the number one. Andrew Usher
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 23 Feb 2010 21:37 Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> writes: > Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > >> >> I suspect that you could find people celebrating Pesach, Purim, >> >> Rosh Hashanah, and Yom Kippur in as many countries as any four >> >> Christian holidays. >> > >> > Well, yes, but not _more people_. >> >> Is that how you construe "more international"? By that measure, >> Gandhi's birthday or the PRC's National Day are far more international >> than any of the Jewish holidays (and, probably, many of the Christian >> ones), even though they're celebrated in far few countries. > > I think you know what I mean. A national holiday can't be > international no matter how many people there are observing it. No, actually, I don't know what you mean. The only reasonable meaning of "more international" I can think of is something like "celebrated in more countries", possibly with some reasonable restriction on what it means for a holiday to count as being "celebrated" in a country, and possibly with a caveat that you should have some discount for countries that are historically closely related or geographically close to one another. But I'll bite. What did you mean by "more international"? -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |A handgun is like a Lawyer. You 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |don't want it lying around where Palo Alto, CA 94304 |the children might be exposed to |it, but when you need one, you need kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com |it RIGHT NOW, and nothing else will (650)857-7572 |do. | Bill McNutt http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: tony cooper on 23 Feb 2010 22:39 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:14:04 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban1(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >Ant�nio Marques wrote: > >> It's not what you think. Either the Church's message is universal and >> Christ did found one Church, or it isn't. > >Now there's a new one: the first I've heard that Jesus founded or even >wanted a church. I thought he delegated the job to Peter. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Brian M. Scott on 23 Feb 2010 23:01
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:48:34 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote in <news:b635eda9-c279-4467-91f7-041a0adef830(a)g23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: > On Feb 23, 12:27�pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: [...] >> I've hear it commented that daylight time was invented by >> an Amrican Indian who, finding his blanket too short to >> reach his chin, cut off the lower end of the blanket and >> sewed it onto the upper end. [...] > Is there a reason for attaching that story to a particular > ethnicity? [...] Quite possibly accuracy in reporting. Brian |