From: Brian M. Scott on
Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> On Feb 24, 1:30 pm, Evan Kirshenbaum
> <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote:

[...]

>> But to the question of "Do they consider themselves
>> Christians?" the answer seems to be pretty clearly
>> "Yes".

> So, anyone who enters US territory and declares themself
> to be a citizen, is a US citizen?

One's citizenship is a matter of law; one's Christianity is
a matter of opinion.

[...]

Brian
From: Peter T. Daniels on
On Feb 24, 1:38 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2010 09:31:13 -0800, R H Draney <dadoc...(a)spamcop.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Evan Kirshenbaum filted:
>
> >>"Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>
> >>> But since we know it's a tall tale, we know that it is not "true" or
> >>> "reportage." What the story tells us is that the most recent teller
> >>> has a low opinion of American Indians, Irishmen, or (in my
> >>> hypothetical), African Americans.
>
> >>What's "reportage" is the "I've heard it commented".  If Dave, living
> >>in Arizona, has heard it told about Indians, then that's the tale he's
> >>reporting having heard.  And the choice of ethnicity is an interesting
> >>part of the tale, giving insight into the attitudes of those who tell
> >>it (as distinct from those who merely report having heard it).
>
> >Knowing some of these peoples, I can imagine the Apache telling such a tale
> >about the Papago*, or the Navajo telling it about the Hopi....r
>
> >* Yes, they're "Tohono O'odham" now, but in the world of the joke, the old
> >politically incorrect terms continue to flourish....
>
> Just to be fair here, I heard it when I was living in Ohio...

So someone in Ohio thought it was more politically correct to insult
American Indians than Hibernians.
From: Peter T. Daniels on
On Feb 24, 2:22 pm, "Skitt" <skit...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > It's really annoying this year -- Vancouver is only three hours ahead
> > of us (i.e., they've already had their morning events by the time it's
> > morning here), so lots of what NBC is showing us on tape could easily
> > have been done live. (The first night of figure skating had the magic
> > notation "Live," but it disappeared since -- presumably so they can do
> > time compression and eliminate the waits between performance and
> > score, and between performances. They even broke in the other day to
> > show the last minute of the US-Canada hockey game, which was being
> > shown live on MSNBC for those with cable, instead of their prepared
> > piece on the day's [yawn] two-man bobsledding.)
>
> Aren't you in the New York area?  If so, when you wake up and have your
> coffee, the people in Vancouver are probably still sound asleep.  Morning
> comes three hours later in Vancouver than it does in New York.

Ah yes. I was all messed up by my recent two-and-two-halves days in
Berkeley.

No coffee, however.

> > Do the Pacific states get the same coverage we do?
>
> We Californians are in the same time zone as Vancouver, but a lot of the
> coverage we see in prime time is tape from an earlier event.  I can see many
> results on the Web before I watch them on TV.
> --
> Skitt (AmE)

From: benlizro on
On Feb 25, 8:47 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 2:22 pm, "Skitt" <skit...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > It's really annoying this year -- Vancouver is only three hours ahead
> > > of us (i.e., they've already had their morning events by the time it's
> > > morning here), so lots of what NBC is showing us on tape could easily
> > > have been done live. (The first night of figure skating had the magic
> > > notation "Live," but it disappeared since -- presumably so they can do
> > > time compression and eliminate the waits between performance and
> > > score, and between performances. They even broke in the other day to
> > > show the last minute of the US-Canada hockey game, which was being
> > > shown live on MSNBC for those with cable, instead of their prepared
> > > piece on the day's [yawn] two-man bobsledding.)
>
> > Aren't you in the New York area?  If so, when you wake up and have your
> > coffee, the people in Vancouver are probably still sound asleep.  Morning
> > comes three hours later in Vancouver than it does in New York.
>
> Ah yes. I was all messed up by my recent two-and-two-halves days in
> Berkeley.

Like I said, it's confusing.
I just realized the other day that the reason I've seen so little of
the live coverage (compared to Beijing) is that it's coming on from
early morning (Vancouver is currently 3 hours later than us) to some
time in the afternoon, when I almost never watch TV. I'm not
particularly a sports fiend, but when the Beijing events were running
right through prime time, you couldn't help occasionally seeing
something.

Ross Clark



>
> No coffee, however.
>
> > > Do the Pacific states get the same coverage we do?
>
> > We Californians are in the same time zone as Vancouver, but a lot of the
> > coverage we see in prime time is tape from an earlier event.  I can see many
> > results on the Web before I watch them on TV.
> > --
> > Skitt (AmE)

From: Hatunen on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:57:57 -0800 (PST), Andrew Usher
<k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
>> I just dropped by rasfw, where people had discussed a different
>> proposal:
>>
>> http://individual.utoronto.ca/kalendis/symmetry.htm
>
>I would object to this because of the huge variation in month lengths.
>This is not only against the original purpose of months, but against
>the modern use of them as financial periods.

How about the French revolution calendar? Per wikipedia:

Calendar design

Years appear in writing as Roman numerals (usually), with epoch
22 September 1792, the beginning of the 'Republican Era' (the day
the French First Republic was proclaimed, one day after the
Convention abolished the monarchy). As a result, Roman Numeral I
indicates the first year of the republic, that is, the year
before the calendar actually came into use. The first day of each
year was that of the autumnal equinox.

There were twelve months, each divided into three ten-day weeks
called d�cades. The tenth day, d�cadi, replaced Sunday as the day
of rest and festivity. The five or six extra days needed to
approximate the solar or tropical year were placed after the
months at the end of each year.

A period of four years ending on a leap day was to be called a
"Franciade." The name "Olympique" was originally proposed[4] but
changed to Franciade to commemorate the fact that it had taken
the revolution four years to establish a republican government in
France.[5]

The leap year was called Sextile, an allusion to the "bissextile"
leap years of the Julian and Gregorian calendars, because it
contained a sixth complementary day.

Decimal time

Each day in the Republican Calendar was divided into ten hours,
each hour into 100 decimal minutes, and each decimal minute into
100 decimal seconds. Thus an hour was 144 conventional minutes
(more than twice as long as a conventional hour), a minute was
86.4 conventional seconds (slightly longer than a conventional
minute), and a second was 0.864 conventional seconds (slightly
shorter than a conventional second).

Clocks were manufactured to display this decimal time, but it did
not catch on. Mandatory use of decimal time was officially
suspended 7 April 1795, although some cities continued to use
decimal time as late as 1801.[6]


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