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From: Peter Moylan on 24 Feb 2010 18:50 Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > > Interestingly, Labour Day [in Australia] is all over the calendar: > > Mar. 7th Western Australia > Mar. 8th Victoria > May 3rd Queensland > Oct. 4th ACT, NSW, SA > > I don't see it listed for the Tasmanian sites (Launceston and Hobart) > The original form of this holiday was called "eight hour day". (I think it's still called that in Tasmania.) I'm not sure when it became a public holiday in Australia, but I think it was well before the custom of using May Day as a celebration of workers' rights. Because Australia already had an Eight Hour Day, May Day never became a public holiday the way it did in most other countries. That's part of the explanation of why it's not celebrated on the traditional Labour Day (1st May). The other part of the explanation is that public holidays are controlled by the states, and the different states have shown no urge to move towards a more uniform system. -- Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org For an e-mail address, see my web page.
From: Robert Bannister on 24 Feb 2010 19:32 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Feb 24, 8:14 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: >> jmfbahciv wrote: >>> Michael Press wrote: >>>> In article <7ufdetFoc...(a)mid.individual.net>, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> >>>> wrote: >>>> [...] >>>>> But we still lack a February holiday, unless we have a big enough >>>>> snowstorm. >>>> February is the cruelest month. >>> February is the longest month. I thought US had President's Day in >>> February now. >>> /BAH >> But I'm in Canada, so we don't celebrate President's Day at all, >> whenever it comes. I'd make do with a 'mid-February Holiday' in honour >> of nothing in particular if I could be guaranteed a break in that dreary >> month. > > We used to have Lincoln's Birthday on Feb 12 and Washington's Birthday > on Feb 22. A while ago, they were rolled into one movable feast. > >> I suppose we could adopt Valentine's Day as a public holiday. > > A holiday in honor of a single industry? What's significant about Mr > (formerly St) Valentine? Single industry? Cards, flowers, perfume, clothing, restaurants, jewellery... I think it must be very important to a wide range of industry. -- Rob Bannister
From: sjdevnull on 24 Feb 2010 19:49 On Feb 24, 6:50 pm, Peter Moylan <gro.nalyomp(a)retep> wrote: > Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > > > Interestingly, Labour Day [in Australia] is all over the calendar: > > > Mar. 7th Western Australia > > Mar. 8th Victoria > > May 3rd Queensland > > Oct. 4th ACT, NSW, SA > > > I don't see it listed for the Tasmanian sites (Launceston and Hobart) > > The original form of this holiday was called "eight hour day". (I think > it's still called that in Tasmania.) I'm not sure when it became a > public holiday in Australia, but I think it was well before the custom > of using May Day as a celebration of workers' rights. Because Australia > already had an Eight Hour Day, May Day never became a public holiday the > way it did in most other countries. > > That's part of the explanation of why it's not celebrated on the > traditional Labour Day (1st May). Wait, Labour day is in May some places? (Googles--yep) In the US, Memorial Day and Labor Day are sort of the bookends for summer/outdoor activity--Memorial Day is the last Monday of May, while Labor Day is the first Monday of September. I know we're lacking a "u", but Labour Day in Canada is also the first Monday of September.
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 24 Feb 2010 20:11 "sjdevnull(a)yahoo.com" <sjdevnull(a)yahoo.com> writes: > On Feb 24, 5:29�pm, Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote: >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: >> >> > But there was no Year 0. 1 BCE was immediately followed by 1 CE. >> >> > Which is why astronomers don't use BCE dates. >> >> "Which is why"? �What astronomically-significant date more than 2010 >> years in the past did you have in mind for which an error of one year >> would be considered significant by astronomers? �Other, I guess than >> recorded astronomical observations and predictions by people back >> then, but I'd expect them to use "BC" when talking about them. �What >> do they used when such precision is required? > > It's not uncommon to make tables of historic astronomical events. > They might be used purely for statistical analysis, or they may be > helpful for trying to determine "what's the comet-shaped thing carved > in the sky on this obelisk" or whatever. > > FWIW, http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEhelp/dates.html says: > > The "astronomical" dating system refers to an alternative method of > numbering years. It includes the year "0" and eliminates the need for > any prefixes or suffixes by attributing the arithmetic sign to the > date. Thus, the astronomical date for 2000 CE is simply +2000 or 2000. > The astronomical year 0 corresponds to the year 1 BCE, while the > astronomical year -1 corresponds to 2 BCE. In general, any given year > "x BCE" becomes "-(x-1)" in the astronomical year numbering system. Ah. I didn't know that. (At least, I don't remember knowing that.) > Historians should take care to note the numerical difference of one > year between "BCE" dates and astronomical dates. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Those who would give up essential 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |Liberty, to purchase a little Palo Alto, CA 94304 |temporary Safety, deserve neither |Liberty nor Safety. kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com | Benjamin Franklin (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 24 Feb 2010 20:19
Peter Moylan <gro.nalyomp(a)retep> writes: > Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > >> >> Interestingly, Labour Day [in Australia] is all over the calendar: >> >> Mar. 7th Western Australia >> Mar. 8th Victoria >> May 3rd Queensland >> Oct. 4th ACT, NSW, SA >> >> I don't see it listed for the Tasmanian sites (Launceston and Hobart) >> > The original form of this holiday was called "eight hour day". (I think > it's still called that in Tasmania.) I'm not sure when it became a > public holiday in Australia, but I think it was well before the custom > of using May Day as a celebration of workers' rights. Because Australia > already had an Eight Hour Day, May Day never became a public holiday the > way it did in most other countries. Ah, that's where Tasmania went. Launceston gets "Eight Hour Day" on March 8th and Hobart gets "Eight Hours Day" the same day. Or, at least, those dates are listed, though they don't have "Company Holiday" in the text. Others that aren't flagged as company holidays are Australia Day, Royal Regatta Day, Launceston Cup Day, Canberra Day (ACT), Good Friday, Easter Tuesday (in Hobart), Foundation Day (WA), Queen's Birthday (June 14th except in WA where it's September 27th), Bank Holiday (NSW), Royal National Show Day (Qld), Family & Community Day (ACT), Royal Launceston Show, Royal Hobart Show, Melbourne Cup Day, and Proclamation Day (SA). (I may have missed a couple.) I have no idea whether any or all of them are paid holidays. > That's part of the explanation of why it's not celebrated on the > traditional Labour Day (1st May). The other part of the explanation is > that public holidays are controlled by the states, and the different > states have shown no urge to move towards a more uniform system. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |If I may digress momentarily from 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |the mainstream of this evening's Palo Alto, CA 94304 |symposium, I'd like to sing a song |which is completely pointless. kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com | Tom Lehrer (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ |