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From: Robert Bannister on 24 Feb 2010 20:28 Peter Moylan wrote: > Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > >> Interestingly, Labour Day [in Australia] is all over the calendar: >> >> Mar. 7th Western Australia >> Mar. 8th Victoria >> May 3rd Queensland >> Oct. 4th ACT, NSW, SA >> >> I don't see it listed for the Tasmanian sites (Launceston and Hobart) >> > The original form of this holiday was called "eight hour day". (I think > it's still called that in Tasmania.) I'm not sure when it became a > public holiday in Australia, but I think it was well before the custom > of using May Day as a celebration of workers' rights. Because Australia > already had an Eight Hour Day, May Day never became a public holiday the > way it did in most other countries. > > That's part of the explanation of why it's not celebrated on the > traditional Labour Day (1st May). The other part of the explanation is > that public holidays are controlled by the states, and the different > states have shown no urge to move towards a more uniform system. > Moreover, the date given above must be for another year. This year, in WA, it's on the 1st March which will be nice for the Welsh. -- Rob Bannister
From: Robert Bannister on 24 Feb 2010 20:33 Andrew Usher wrote: > Robert Bannister wrote: > >>> 'One' is not, grammatically, a pronoun. It is a nominalised adjective >>> (the number one) that is used in place of a pronoun. >> Are you positive it isn't related to French "on" (as opposed to French >> "un")? > > Well, it certainly could be, and that is the usual derivation given, > although I don't think there's any direct proof. > > Anglo-French 'on' and Middle English 'one' would be very close in > pronunciation, both being some variant of [On]. But still, I think if > that was the origin it was assimilated into English as if it were the > number one. > > Andrew Usher The equivalent in other Germanic languages is not the same as their word for the number "one". -- Rob Bannister
From: Robert Bannister on 24 Feb 2010 20:45 Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > >> On Feb 23, 7:07 pm, Ant�nio Marques <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: >>> Besides, until recently, no other church lived for a universal >>> ('catholic') vocation. Sure, many of them did have one, but not as >>> a central structuring element. Notice the RC was never 'the Italian >>> Church' even when popes were italian for centuries long. >> Doesn't _every_ extant Christian church use the Nicene Creed? (With or >> without the _filioque_.) > > Assuming that you're not begging the question, no. Mormons don't. I > don't believe Jehovah's Witnesses do. I see claims that Seventh-Day > Adventists accept the original (325) Nicene Creed but not the revised > (381) version. I'm not sure about Christian Scientists. And I would > be surprised if there weren't a number of churches (minor, but more > mainstream than those mentioned) that don't disagree with it but don't > actually use it. > I'm pretty sure that Mormons, Jehova's Witnesses and Christian Scientists are not Christians. I'm not sure about Seventh Dayers. -- Rob Bannister
From: Peter T. Daniels on 25 Feb 2010 00:15 On Feb 24, 3:22 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:15:35 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" > > <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >On Feb 23, 8:07 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Indeed, indexing is not the same thing as counting. If I were creating > >> a non-computer _indexing_ system, I would start from 0 as well. > > >What would you be indexing? Books, for instance, don't have a p. 0. > > That comes down to the question of whether the cardinal numbers > include zero. No, it doesn't; books don't have a p. 0.
From: Peter T. Daniels on 25 Feb 2010 00:16
On Feb 24, 3:27 pm, "sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com" <sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 2:08 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 7:07 pm, António Marques <antonio...(a)sapo.pt> wrote: > > > > Hatunen wrote (23-02-2010 22:47): > > > > > I believe that a great many of the churches which once split away > > > > from the church of Rome considered themselves the true catholic > > > > chuch. > > > > > Certainly the Anglicans do. The Anglican covenant says, > > > > > "(1.1.1) its communion in the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic > > > > Church, worshipping the one true God, Father, Son, and Holy > > > > Spirit." > > > > Of course they do. But when it comes to self-identify, only one church on > > > this planet consistenty refers to itself simply as 'the Catholic Church' (it > > > also uses other names, namely 'the Church', and where pragmatism requires > > > 'the Roman Catholic Church' - but the 'Roman' adds nothing, unlike 'Old' or > > > 'Polish National' - the RC doesn't see any added value in Roman, it doesn't > > > contribute to the meaning with anything that wasn't there before). > > > > Besides, until recently, no other church lived for a universal ('catholic') > > > vocation. Sure, many of them did have one, but not as a central structuring > > > element. Notice the RC was never 'the Italian Church' even when popes were > > > italian for centuries long. > > > Doesn't _every_ extant Christian church use the Nicene Creed? (With or > > without the _filioque_.) > > Not at all. The Nicene creed was explicitly designed to advocate a > Trinitarian position and to brand non-Trinitarian sects (the Arians in > particular) as heretics. It quite intentionally defines one subset of > Christianity (and not every Trinitarian sect uses the Nicene Creed-- > Quakers, for instance, explicitly reject using any creed). > > Some examples of modern-day non-Trinitarians, who would reject the key > Nicene doctrinal tenets: Then they are, by definition, not Christians. The wannabes don't get to say who is a member of the club; the gatekeepers do. > USA: The Adventists (not just Jehovah's Witnesses and 7th Day, but > also Christadelphians, Church of God, etc) and the Oneness > Pentecostals > China: True Jesus Church and many others (pretty much every Chinese > protestant sect doesn't use the Nicene creed) > Africa: Apostolic Church of Ethiopia > Ireland: Christian Conventions > Russia: Doukhobors, Molokans > Switzerland, Italy, Germany and surrounding areas: the Friends of Man > Sweden: Swedenborgians > North and South America: Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ > Jesus > Phillipines: Iglesia ni Cristo > > There are plenty of others, too. > > Some of those have only a few tens of thousands of members (Molokans); > others, like the AAFCJ, True Jesus Church, Iglesia ni Cristo, and > Apostolic Church of Ethiopia have a million members or more. > > Many famous devout Christians (e.g. Isaac Newton, John Locke) drew > from Arian-inspired faiths such as the Polish Brethren and would > certainly not believe in the Nicene Creed.- |