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From: BURT on 4 Mar 2010 18:17 On Mar 4, 12:33 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) wrote: > BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> writes: > >On Mar 4, 11:00 am, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) > >wrote: > >> >There is no positron radioactivity. > > >> The positrons say: "Rumors of our nonexistence have been greatly > >> exaggerated!" > >It is proven that anti matter does not exist. > > That would come as a BIG surprise to particle physicists, the people who > invented PET scanners, people cured by the PET scanners, people who built > and run SLAC, Star Trek fans and bananas everywhere.... > > ...if such proof actually existed. But it doesn't, of course. It is only a matter of time. Mitch Raemsch
From: Michael Moroney on 4 Mar 2010 21:55 BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> writes: >On Mar 4, 12:33 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) >wrote: >> BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> writes: >> >It is proven that anti matter does not exist. >> >> That would come as a BIG surprise to particle physicists, the people who >> invented PET scanners, people cured by the PET scanners, people who built >> and run SLAC, Star Trek fans and bananas everywhere.... >> >> ...if such proof actually existed. But it doesn't, of course. >It is only a matter of time. You wrote "it is proven" antimatter doesn't exist, meaning that the proof itself already exists. "A matter of time" means (you think) someday, someone, somewhere will be able to do so. So do you admit that no such proof currently exists? But going with the idea that someone will eventually disprove antimatter: Does that mean that as soon as the mystery physicist clicks "Save" on his word processor software writing his paper, at that very moment every PET scanner in the world stops working? Do they explode or just become very expensive boat anchors? Do people cured of diseases with the help of PET scanners get their cancers back? What happens at SLAC with their positron beams? Do positron-emitting radioactive isotopes suddenly become stable? And what happens to bananas worldwide?
From: BURT on 4 Mar 2010 22:10 On Mar 4, 6:55 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) wrote: > BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> writes: > >On Mar 4, 12:33 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) > >wrote: > >> BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> writes: > >> >It is proven that anti matter does not exist. > > >> That would come as a BIG surprise to particle physicists, the people who > >> invented PET scanners, people cured by the PET scanners, people who built > >> and run SLAC, Star Trek fans and bananas everywhere.... > > >> ...if such proof actually existed. But it doesn't, of course. > >It is only a matter of time. > > You wrote "it is proven" antimatter doesn't exist, meaning that the > proof itself already exists. "A matter of time" means (you think) > someday, someone, somewhere will be able to do so. So do you admit > that no such proof currently exists? > > But going with the idea that someone will eventually disprove antimatter: > Does that mean that as soon as the mystery physicist clicks "Save" on his > word processor software writing his paper, at that very moment every PET > scanner in the world stops working? Do they explode or just become very > expensive boat anchors? Do people cured of diseases with the help of PET > scanners get their cancers back? What happens at SLAC with their positron > beams? Do positron-emitting radioactive isotopes suddenly become stable? > And what happens to bananas worldwide? Radioactivity is for isotopes neutrons not antimatter. How would you identify an individual positron if it was emited? Mitch Raemsch
From: spudnik on 4 Mar 2010 22:59 read Alfven. in the meantime, positrons spiral in the opposite bubble-tracks to electrons, as has been known for decades. what the Hell; do what ever you were going to do with your typewriter, anyway. if we can get a Psalm per century out of you two, we'll win the Lotto! > Radioactivity is for isotopes neutrons not antimatter. > How would you identify an individual positron if it was emited? thus: you mean, the Big Bang was a Big Garbahj Compactor? what in Hell do you mean by "light passing at variable speed" -- why should the speed of energy, itself (waves in the What Ever) be anything, other than the velocity of light? > Have you never heard of Gigo? As in, "The entire universe > originated at a spot, about 13 billion years ago, before time began, > and even though neither matter or energy can be created or destroyed." thus: wow; what Al and PD said about the pointiness of electrons, I'd never read of, before; prove them wrong, virtual ghetto-mates? --Light: A History! http://wlym.com
From: Michael Moroney on 5 Mar 2010 12:51
BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> writes: >On Mar 4, 6:55 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) >wrote: >> BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> writes: >> >On Mar 4, 12:33 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) >> >wrote: >> >> >> ...if such proof actually existed. But it doesn't, of course. >> >It is only a matter of time. >> >> You wrote "it is proven" antimatter doesn't exist, meaning that the >> proof itself already exists. "A matter of time" means (you think) >> someday, someone, somewhere will be able to do so. So do you admit >> that no such proof currently exists? >> >> But going with the idea that someone will eventually disprove antimatter: >> Does that mean that as soon as the mystery physicist clicks "Save" on his >> word processor software writing his paper, at that very moment every PET >> scanner in the world stops working? Do they explode or just become very >> expensive boat anchors? Do people cured of diseases with the help of PET >> scanners get their cancers back? What happens at SLAC with their positron >> beams? Do positron-emitting radioactive isotopes suddenly become stable? >> And what happens to bananas worldwide? >Radioactivity is for isotopes neutrons not antimatter. You didn't answer the question. And nobody said antimatter was what was radioactive. >How would you identify an individual positron if it was emited? Bubble chambers, for one. They've been in use since the 50's. Also cloud chambers, and more modern methods. Bubble chambers get tracks as charged particles pass through them. When placed in a strong magnetic field, the tracks bend (F=Bev), and one can identify different particles. The following is wasted on you since you refuse to learn, but others may find this very cool. The following pdf has two images, first is a raw photo of bubble chamber tracks, the second has several events highlighted. http://teachers.web.cern.ch/teachers/archiv/HST2001/bubblechambers/glug.pdf The events marked "C" are a photon becoming an electron-positron pair. They form a characteristic V shape becoming two spirals/curlieques. The positrons curve to the left, electrons to the right. Event "P" is a positron annihilating with an electron becoming photons. One of the photons from this becomes an electron-positron pair again (Q). "D" is another photon becoming an electron-positron pair. This time the positron collides with an electron, but doesn't annihilate with it. Instead it transfers all its momentum to the electron (just like two pool balls of the same mass hitting dead-on) and the electron starts curving the opposite way. V is something uncharged (and invisible) decaying into either an antiproton or a pion. |