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Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
> > wrote:
>>> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any way to tell if a site like that is safe, at all?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Use it until it's proved otherwise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simples.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who like gambling with that kind of thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who do not?
>>>>
>>>> USB key and delivering by hand.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if there was a generally-available method of
> > > shifting
>>> big-ish files around the 'net that's not something you need to
> > > gamble
>>> on
>>> and doesn't cost a significant sum to set up/use.
>>
>> I guess it depends on your view of gamble.
>
> My definition:
>
> Starting any course of action without a `near 100%' chance of success.
>
> (strictly speaking, I actually think I'm gambling when I start any
> course of action at all - but in this case, I'm wondering about the
> high-risk gambles - that is, anything where I think there's a
> realistic
> chance it might not work out)

In that case I would say quite a lot of the online storage options
should work, ms skydive, googles service, BTs one
>
>> I use drop box and it works
>> for me and my security needs (and on the devices I need to use it
> > on).
>> however I don't need a service to carry any files that need to be
> > kept
>> secure, other than at work, where we have other means to transfer
> > them.
>
> Drop box? Could you say more?

Supposed to be dropbox as one word, iPad autocorrected it. It is a free
online storage (for less than 2gb, paid beyond that) that appears as a
disk on the mac or pc. You can share folders with anyone, or make them
public, people can access the files either on a web page if they are not
a member, or a shared volume

--
Woody
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:35:08 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
wrote:

>On 2010-06-23 21:56:32 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:39:40 +0100, thnews(a)poboxmolar.com.invalid (Tim
>> Hodgson) wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-06-23 20:00:31 +0100, Tim Hodgson said:
>>>>
>>>>> D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are two things I don't like about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One is that you need to put the items you want available on Dropbox to
>>>>>> be in your Dropbox folder. This means moving them out of their usual
>>>>>> place, where you'd like them to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use aliases, though I think the original, rather than the alias,
>>>>> has to be the one in the DropBox folder.
>>>>
>>>> Backing up the alias would be *much* faster, and use less space as well.
>>>
>>> Look, it's been a long day, and...and...
>>>
>>> (I did have some vague idea about smart software that resolved aliases,
>>> but thinking it through...maybe not.)
>>
>> Does it work with softlinks? Hardlinks it certainly will, but that can
>> be a little limiting.
>
>I perhaps should have put a :-) after my sentence...

You're okay, I'd had enough tea and it made me snigger! But an alias
is a real file which clearly will be handled badly, while a link
should work, so serious question.

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-06-24 10:03:35 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:35:08 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-06-23 21:56:32 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>>
>>> Does it work with softlinks? Hardlinks it certainly will, but that can
>>> be a little limiting.
>>
>> I perhaps should have put a :-) after my sentence...
>
> You're okay, I'd had enough tea and it made me snigger! But an alias
> is a real file which clearly will be handled badly, while a link
> should work, so serious question.

I think it'll depend a lot on the app saving the file. Using TextEdit,
which should be using fairly vanilla Cocoa file saving code, it looks
like:

aliases - uploads the Carbon alias file instead - no good.

symlinks - uploads the original file, and updates when the original
file is updated

hardlinks - uploads the original file, stops updating (nlinks=1) when
the original file is updated (obviously rewritten and renamed).

So symlinks from the Dropbox folder to the original files are the way
to go, at least for files written by TextEdit.

--
Chris

From: Rowland McDonnell on
The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > What I was asking about, you see, was about a way of doing this which
> > had been demonstrated safe-enough.
>
> No, you weren't. You didn't ask if anyone had actually *demonstrated*
> such a system. You asked for suggestions. You used the present tense,
> not the past.
>
> But carry on moving the goalposts if you want.

Actually, the reality of things is clearly visible in this thread, and
it's interesting to see that you accuse me of moving the goalposts when
that's your game.

Let's see what *really* happened, shall we children? Yes, let's!
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> Something like <http://isendr.com/> ?

Is there any way to tell if a site like that is safe, at all?
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Then there was this in
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The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Is there any way to tell if a site like that is safe, at all?
>
> Use it until it's proved otherwise.
>
> Simples.

For those who like gambling with that kind of thing.

For those who do not?
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None of that meets your claims for what actually happened - shame that
reality exists, isn't it? Your personal opinions are not the definitive
statement of history, you know.

I suggest you just drop your personal comments about me in this
technical newsgroup meant for techncial discussion.

Rowland.

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From: TOG on
On 24 June, 15:24, real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
> The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > What I was asking about, you see, was about a way of doing this which
> > > had been demonstrated safe-enough.
>
> > No, you weren't. You didn't ask if anyone had actually *demonstrated*
> > such a system. You asked for suggestions. You used the present tense,
> > not the past.
>
> > But carry on moving the goalposts if you want.
>
> Actually, the reality of things is clearly visible in this thread, and
> it's interesting to see that you accuse me of moving the goalposts when
> that's your game.
>
> Let's see what *really* happened, shall we children?  Yes, let's!
> In Message-ID:
> <1jkisui.dhbqrp1rnjmi0N%real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Something like <http://isendr.com/> ?
>
> Is there any way to tell if a site like that is safe, at all?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Then there was this in
> Message-ID:
> <1jkjqle.1wh806b14kx393N%real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-...(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Is there any way to tell if a site like that is safe, at all?
>
> > Use it until it's proved otherwise.
>
> > Simples.
>
> For those who like gambling with that kind of thing.
>
> For those who do not?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> None of that meets your claims for what actually happened - shame that
> reality exists, isn't it?  Your personal opinions are not the definitive
> statement of history, you know.

Oh dear. Go back and read it again, and you'll see I'm correct.
Absolutely no request for a previously demonstrated-safe means.
Poifect.
>
> I suggest you just drop your personal comments about me in this
> technical newsgroup meant for techncial discussion.
>

What personal comments?