From: Rowland McDonnell on
Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell wrote
> >> Hmm. I get that when I hit 'Overview'. I then have to select an area
> >> (click and drag) and the 'Scan' button ungreys and allows me to do a
> >> decent quality scan.
> >
> > No such button as `Overview'. I've got `Scan' and `Show Details'
> > buttons only.
>
> Do you have a checkbox for 'Detect separate items'?

I don't recall and can't check now (see below).

> > `Scan' gives me a fast scan and dumps the file in ~/Pictures (selectable
> > via a pop-up menu).
>
> Yes, it will.
>
> > Pressing `Overview' - ah well now, that's not a bad idea, is it? Yes.
> > Some controls.
>
> Typo here? Did you mean pressing 'Show Details'?

I forget - and I can't check, because Image Capture now denies that I've
got a scanner at all.

[snip]

> >> I'd recommend buying a Canon scanner (or an all-in-one) from a mail
> >> order company and trying it out. If it doesn't work (or even if it
> >> does) you can always return it for a full refund under the Distance
> >> Selling Regulations.
> >
> > Hmm - righto. Ta for the thought.
>
> > btw, is there any chance that an HP scanner might be competent? The
> > prices look quite good, but I've never met an HP scanner in the past
> > that struck me as capable of producing adequate images...
>
> I hate HP peripherals. They write their own software all over the place, and
> put icons to all of it in the dock. Vt has an HP, and it was one of the
> reasons I bought a Canon.
>
> Hope this helps.

Yep.

HP's still off my list, then...

(I've got HP on my `don't buy' list - but I do like to check each time I
boycott the firm)

Rowland.

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From: Pd on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> > And now I actually look, there is also a large XML file that indicates
> > which files are in which album, so there is no metadata lost if you lost
> > the application.
>
> You're wrong, of course.
>
> Since that XML file isn't remotely useful to any normal person without
> Aperture, the data is in reality lost for any normal person if Aperture
> goes.

I don't know XML, but as a human (allegedly) person I can read an XML
file and make some sense of it. That's one of the nice things about XML.

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From: Woody on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > > ... which is 100% fully commercial proprietary copyrighted software, and
> > > > the only software that supports exactly the data structures that
> > > > Aperture (e.g.) works with is Aperture.
> > >
> > > Its a series of folders named 2002,2003,2004 etc, and within that there
> > > are a series of months that go 01->12, and within that there are a
> > > series of days, depending on what days you took photos, in the range of
> > > 1->31
> > >
> > > > That is the lock-in I'm talking about, which is in fact there.
> > >
> > > That isn't a lock in, that is an ordering.
> > > A lock in is where there is no way of getting your data out (or it is
> > > hard).
>
> You're wrong, of course - it is as I described.

What? that the data is irrovocably lost? It clearly isn't and could be
recovered by almost anyone with a basic knowledge of computing, or
people who are able to work out the date.

> You'd find things would be better if you tried to understand people
> rather than reflexively denying the facts they're trying to open your
> eyes to.

I tried to understand how a date ordered filing system could be a lock
in, and yes, I failed to understand how that could prevent anyone from
accessing their photos. Even my mum could work that out.

If you could enlighten me rather than just claiming it is a lock in
because you said so, I would appreciate it.


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From: Daniel Cohen on
Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Well, no it doesn't. No UI, no nothing. The only response I've ever
> > > had from GraphicConverter when trying to TWAIN acquire - is crashing.
> >
> > Any TWAIN-compatible one, which they all are nowadays.
> >
>
>
> Yes, but there may not be a TWAIN driver (is that the right word?) that
> works with 10.6.2.

Just had another thought. The old TWAIN driver may well work if Graphic
Converter is run in 32-bit mode rather than the default 64-bit mode.

Though if Rowland's *only* response from GC was crashing, and that is
meant to mean even before Snow Leopard, then there is probably something
wrong with his system.
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From: Ben Shimmin on
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>:
> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>> > And now I actually look, there is also a large XML file that indicates
>> > which files are in which album, so there is no metadata lost if you lost
>> > the application.
>>
>> You're wrong, of course.
>>
>> Since that XML file isn't remotely useful to any normal person without
>> Aperture, the data is in reality lost for any normal person if Aperture
>> goes.
>
> I don't know XML, but as a human (allegedly) person I can read an XML
> file and make some sense of it. That's one of the nice things about XML.

In general I agree, but try unzipping a .docx file and having a look
at the XML that gives you. Yes, you can read it. No, you wouldn't
really want to.

b.

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