Ubuntu/GNOME deteriorating?
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From: JEDIDIAH on 27 Mar 2010 20:30 On 2010-03-27, Hadron <hadronquark(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Robert Heller <heller(a)deepsoft.com> writes: > >> At Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:17:20 -0400 Moshe <goldee_loxnbagels(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:41:18 -0500, Terry Porter wrote: [deletia] >> No, any given Linux user installs *one* distro and sticks to that >> distro. Just like a given car user buys a car and drives it for several >> years. >> >>> > > "several years". > > But normally you buy it and drive it away from the showroom. That is normally the case with Linux too. You try on something that you think might suit you and if it does you just keep on using it... -- Unauthorized distribution of your work is going to happen. That ||| particular genie left the bottle a long time ago. You can either be / | \ cool about it and possibly gain from it or big the biggest jerk you can be and alienate potential fans.
From: RonB on 27 Mar 2010 21:15 On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:57:33 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > RonB wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:35:46 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> Moshe wrote: >> >>>> You seem to spend more time installing and removing various versions >>>> of Linux than anything else. >>> No, that's what we talk about here. >>> Because that is - strangely - what this group is about. >> >> Strange how that works out, isn't it? You think "Moshe" will ever get a >> clue? >> > why would he want to? > > Ignorance is bliss.. He *should* be one of the most blissful people who ever posted on COLA then. -- RonB Registered Linux User #498581 CentOS 5.4 or Vector Linux Deluxe 6.0
From: Robert Heller on 27 Mar 2010 23:03 At Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:32:44 -0400 GangGreene <GangGreene(a)example.com> wrote: > > Hadron wrote: > > > GangGreene <GangGreene(a)example.com> writes: > > > >> Moshe wrote: > >> > >> [putolin] > >> > >>> The beauty of Windows is that I don't have to switch distributions > >>> each week. It's an operating system, nothing more and nothing > >>> less. > >>> I can focus on *applications*, world class applications instead of > >>> the buggy slopware that you Linux users are stuck with. > >>> > >> > >> The beauty of linux is I don't have to be concerned with the virus of the > >> day. It's a secure multi-user networking operating system, nothing less. > >> > >> I can focus on productivity, using world class code/apps instead of > >> updating my virus protection every time I turn on the machine and booting > >> the broken malware infested garbageware that you microsoft users are > >> stuck with. > > > > You sound like WronG. He claimed he spent his entire day "fighting > > malware" and updating virus checkers. You're either retarded, as thick > > as a brick or telling lies. I suspect a combination of all three. > > > > You should spend ZERO time doing these things if you can master setting > > the pretty basic preferences. > > > > Telling lies is no way to go through life son. Screaching nonsense like > > above convinces no one. Try selling Gnu/Linux on its strengths and not > > by telling lies about Windows to people who know better. > > > I see you don't know what satire is......sigh > > Dude I don't even use microsoft windows any more. > I changed to linux in 1995. And I never, ever used any version of MS-Windows. I went from VMS to Ultrix / SunOS / Irix / OSF to Linux (first early Slackware, then RH 5.2, RH 6.2, RH 7.3, RH 9, WBL 3.0, CentOS 4.3 ... 4.8, to CentOS 5.4). > > > > -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database heller(a)deepsoft.com -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
From: RonB on 27 Mar 2010 23:13 On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:03:11 -0500, Robert Heller wrote: > And I never, ever used any version of MS-Windows. I went from VMS to > Ultrix / SunOS / Irix / OSF to Linux (first early Slackware, then RH > 5.2, RH 6.2, RH 7.3, RH 9, WBL 3.0, CentOS 4.3 ... 4.8, to CentOS 5.4). I'm guessing you know Red Hat pretty well, then. "WBL?... White Box Linux? -- RonB Registered Linux User #498581 CentOS 5.4 or Vector Linux Deluxe 6.0
From: Kelsey Bjarnason on 28 Mar 2010 02:49
[snips] Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> Perhaps NetworkManager can also do this, but IME, it doesn't; it seems >> to insist that the GUI component be run and the proper credentials >> supplied (i.e. enter the admin pass) before it'll do anything useful. > > You need to a member of a certain group, netdev or netusers, can't recall at > the moment. I am; setting that up is part of the install script, at least in the version of KUbuntu I'm running. And yes, logout and login for it to take, etc, etc, etc. The point is, NM _won't_ (for whatever reason) allow me to define a connection to start automatically, and while I can certainly do it through the GUI, it persists in asking me for a password. Which, come to think of it, could be the walletmanager pass, rather than the admin pass, but either way, I still have to enter a pass before it'll connect. What I want is a little different: Boot Load X Log in (automagic) Lock screen Start session (including news puller, etc) So, basically, I fire it up, walk off to get a coffee, come back, and I'm logged in, news postings are downloaded, updates checked, etc, etc, etc, all before I ever sit down at the box. There are other, more significant tasks being done there, too, but they're specific to our LAN environment. Point is, with NM, this doesn't happen; I can get it to auto-log-in to X, launch the news fetcher, etc, etc, etc... but since it won't connect until I sit down to type in a password, there's no benefit to this. With wicd, I define a connection, set it as "autoconnect", and if it's in range and the wireless keys are all correct, it connects before the desktop is up, news fetching and whatnot all does its thing, life is good. > I connect to two connections, wired and wireless (at work), on different > subnets, using Network Manager. And you can tell it to use the nameservers > you want to use (instead of what DHCP provides) and even add routing > information independently on each connection. Yeah, I'm reasonably sure you can do that with wicd as well, though I don't recall offhand trying... but the point here is that NM simply does not suit my particular needs. It may suit yours, and wicd may not... but there you go, the whole point of choices and options summed up in one neat little package. |