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From: White Spirit on 26 Mar 2010 20:10 On 26/03/10 23:32, Ignoramus8345 wrote: >> I totally agree after installing Arch on my EeePC900. I'm very impressed >> with so many aspects of Arch, from the philosophy to the package >> management. >> Next Arch install this quadcore workstation, currently running Mint8. > Does it come with networkmanager? Yep. pacman -S networkmanager will install it. > Does it let you switch users seamlessly, without breaking sound? Yes. I use KDE4 and it works with no problems.
From: White Spirit on 26 Mar 2010 20:16 On 26/03/10 22:41, Terry Porter wrote: >> http://www.archlinux.org > I totally agree after installing Arch on my EeePC900. I'm very impressed > with so many aspects of Arch, from the philosophy to the package > management. I used to use Slackware as I liked the minimalist approach but Arch does it even better such that it's much easier to install and use but still lets the user have the same level of control without things getting in the way. The BSD style init scripts are excellent, particularly rc.conf allowing full configuration of modules and services. Pacman is certainly one of the best assets, though. > Next Arch install this quadcore workstation, currently running Mint8. I have a quad core AMD X4 630. I read an article recently saying that Arch is one of Linux' best kept secrets. It has certainly put an end to my distro hopping :)
From: Robert Heller on 26 Mar 2010 23:20 At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:47:46 -0500 Ignoramus8345 <ignoramus8345(a)NOSPAM.8345.invalid> wrote: > > On 2010-03-26, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:35:31 -0500, Ignoramus8345 wrote: > > > >> OK, say, in CentOS 5.4, can I: > >> > >> 1) Switch users doing "live user switching" > > > > Don't know what that is. You can log out of one user and log into another > > without rebooting the computer. > > What I can do on Ubuntu is: > > 1) I log on and open some applications > 2) I click on "Switch user" > 3) I log on as another user and open more apps > 4) I select "switch user" > 5) I go back to the first user and to my opened apps > 6) and so on > > >> 2) Does sound work even for multiple users > > > > Yes. > > > >> 3) Does it have Network Manager > > > > Yes. > > > >> 4) Is it upgradeable to later vers > > > > From one minor release to the next. For example, I upgraded from CentOS > > 5.2 to 5.3, then to 5.4. When 6.0 comes out it will probably require a > > reinstall. > > > > What is the difference between minor and major releases? A minor release (also known as a point release) is general update of packages and corresponds to an updated 'base' system and new batch of CD/DVDs ISO images. Updating a point release won't (should not) break things. The base versions of packages are the same and things remain binary compatible. A major release is a new version freeze from some version of Fedora Core and is not strictly binary compatible with a previous major release, although 'legacy' libraries are available for old code that (for whatever reason) has not been recompiled. A major release upgrade might require dumping/restoring a SVN or PostgreSQL database or migrating configure files, etc. Esentual security or bug fixes are including in the 'updates' repo between point relases. RedHat *back ports* security and bug fixes from newer versions of various packages, including the kernel, the package version remains the same thoughout the lifetime of a major release. For example, CentOS 5.x is using the 2.6.18 kernel and CentOS 4.x is using the 2.6.9 kernel (and CentOS 3.x is using a 2.4 kernel). Even though CentOS 5.x is using a 2.6.18 kernel, kernel security, bug, and driver updates from *newer* kernels are backported and patched into the CentOS 5.x point releases and as kernel updates as they are made available. Not all newer drivers are made available -- it depends on whether the driver needs newer kernel features or APIs. > > i > -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database heller(a)deepsoft.com -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
From: Robert Heller on 26 Mar 2010 23:20 At Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:02:47 -0500 Ignoramus8345 <ignoramus8345(a)NOSPAM.8345.invalid> wrote: > > On 2010-03-26, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:47:46 -0500, Ignoramus8345 wrote: > > > >> What is the difference between minor and major releases? > > > > Forgot to answer this one. Minor releases are "point" releases. 5.3 to 5.4 > > would be a "point" release. Major releases are from 4.x to 5.x, or the > > upcoming 5.x to 6.x. > > > > Do they correspond somehow to Redhat releases? In what way? CentOS a.b == RHEL a.b -- eg CentOS 5.4 is *binary* compatible (identical for all practical purposes) with RHEL 5.4. The difference between CentOS and RHEL is: 1) CentOS has had all of the RedHat trademarked images replaced with CentOS images (logos icons, spash screen images, etc.). 2) CentOS has had the (few) non Open Source packages in RHEL removed (I believe there are a few commercial, closed source packages included with RHEL). 3) CentOS is available free and without paid support (from the CentOS team -- there are vendors who provide paid support for CentOS). RHEL's *binary* packages are available only with a paid (support) substription. Any software package that runs under some version of RHEL will run on the corresponding version of CentOS. Any hardware certified to work with some version of RHEL will also work with the corresponding version of CentOS. CentOS a.b is built from the source RPMs for RHEL a.b. > -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database heller(a)deepsoft.com -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
From: Balwinder S Dheeman on 26 Mar 2010 23:28
On 03/27/2010 05:05 AM, J G Miller wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:05:52 -0500, Ignoramus8345 wrote: > >> But is Mint free of the same annoying bugs? > > The same annoying bugs as which? Certainly the same annoying > bugs as those in Ubuntu which their quality control has allowed > to slip through. > > It really is a case of you cannot have your cake and eat it. > > If you want bug free, then you are best going for a thoroughly > tested distribution viz Debian, or if you prefer rpm and Red Hat, > Centos. > > If you want newer software but are prepared to live with the > bugs that get through, then go with Ubuntu (or Mint if you > want the green wallpaper). > > If you want even more bleeding edge, but a very limited > package set, then try Fedora Core. > > If you want a distribution that lives on the bleeding edge > then try Sidux. > > Perhaps with its 8 month release cycles, openSUSE is more > of a balance in between stable Debian and Ubuntu because > they do more testing, but then you have to use the rpm > package system instead and do as you are told by Yast > (the administration tool). The best ever with all the bleeding edge bits and pieces, lesser bugs, rolling release (install once and upgrade everyday) I found is ArchLinux. -- Balwinder S "bdheeman" Dheeman Registered Linux User: #229709 Anu'z Linux(a)HOME (Unix Shoppe) Machines: #168573, 170593, 259192 Chandigarh, UT, 160062, India Plan9, T2, Arch/Debian/FreeBSD/XP Home: http://werc.homelinux.net/ Visit: http://counter.li.org/ |