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From: jeremy jozwik on 5 Apr 2010 12:20
hello list, after a recent system drive migration ive noticed that the
right click unmont in lenny 5.0.2 no longer cleanly unmounts.

i get a dialog box saying cannot unmont blah blah... the drives are
not being accessed at the time.
since umount is not a package that i can reinstall [as far as i know]
im wondering if my main user account does not have permissions to run
umont?

im just guessing here so i changed chmod to all users write read whathave you.
that seemed, at first, to fix the problem. but it is back now.

ownership of umount is root now. im wondering if that is the correct setting.


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From: Stephen Powell on 5 Apr 2010 12:50
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:11:53 -0400 (EDT), jeremy jozwik wrote:
>
> hello list, after a recent system drive migration ive noticed that the
> right click unmont in lenny 5.0.2 no longer cleanly unmounts.
>
> i get a dialog box saying cannot unmont blah blah... the drives are
> not being accessed at the time.
> since umount is not a package that i can reinstall [as far as i know]
> im wondering if my main user account does not have permissions to run
> umont?
>
> im just guessing here so i changed chmod to all users write read whathave you.
> that seemed, at first, to fix the problem. but it is back now.
>
> ownership of umount is root now. im wondering if that is the correct setting.

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about. I am familiar with the
mount and umount commands issued at a shell prompt, but this "right click"
business I don't understand. Are you talking about some icon on the desktop,
such as GNOME or KDE? Also, either you are a bad speller/typist or you are talking
about three different things. You mentioned "unmont", "umount", and "umont".
And what do you you mean you issued chmod? What do file permissions
have to do with mounting or unmounting a file system? You didn't change the
file permissions of the mount or umount commands themselves, did you?
That shouldn't be necessary. Please try again to state your problem as
clearly as possible. I have some ideas that may help you, but I don't want
to take a shot in the dark. I need to understand exactly what the problem is.

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From: jeremy jozwik on 5 Apr 2010 14:00
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Stephen Powell <zlinuxman(a)wowway.com> wrote:
> I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about. I am familiar with the
> mount and umount commands issued at a shell prompt, but this "right click"
> business I don't understand. Are you talking about some icon on the desktop,
> such as GNOME or KDE?
when a drive appears automatically mounted on a debian system with
GNOME there is an icon for it on the desktop. a very easy way to
unmount the drive is to right click on it.
this is no longer working properly.

> And what do you you mean you issued chmod?
just some trial and error fixes since i could not find any similar
problems on the net.

> What do file permissions have to do with mounting or unmounting a file system?
my thinking at the time was since i just transfered the contents of
the drive to a new drive then perhaps some permissions for umount were
not working correctly. i thought that if the file was assigned only
for root access then my normal user account could not run the program.
causing the error. i figured that since it was only a permissions
change i could easily set it back if it did not solve the "right
click> unmount" issue.


> You didn't change the file permissions of the mount or umount commands themselves, did you? That shouldn't be necessary.
yes, i did. just to see if it would fix "right click> unmount"


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From: Camaleón on 5 Apr 2010 14:30
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:11:53 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

> hello list, after a recent system drive migration ive noticed that the
> right click unmont in lenny 5.0.2 no longer cleanly unmounts.
>
> i get a dialog box saying cannot unmont blah blah... the drives are not
> being accessed at the time.
> since umount is not a package that i can reinstall [as far as i know] im
> wondering if my main user account does not have permissions to run
> umont?

Try to login with another user and see what happens.

> im just guessing here so i changed chmod to all users write read
> whathave you. that seemed, at first, to fix the problem. but it is back
> now.
>
> ownership of umount is root now. im wondering if that is the correct
> setting.

Some tips:

- There are some USB devices out there (mainly iPod, mp4 players and
mobile phones) that indeed do not work with just the "umounting" action.
They need to be first "ejected" and then "umounted". It just happened to
me this weekeknd whan I plugged my mobile phone in usb storage mode. I
umounted the device but the warning messages was presented to me. I just
ignored it...

- On standard hard drives this should not happen. Try to debug "umount -
v /mnt/device" using the console. Also, check "dmesg" for additional
information.

- "lsof" lists the opened files, you could also check that...

Greetings,

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From: jeremy jozwik on 5 Apr 2010 14:40
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Camaleón <noelamac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Try to login with another user and see what happens.
will try later today.

> Some tips:
>
> - There are some USB devices out there (mainly iPod, mp4 players and
> mobile phones) that indeed do not work with just the "umounting" action.
> They need to be first "ejected" and then "umounted". It just happened to
> me this weekeknd whan I plugged my mobile phone in usb storage mode. I
> umounted the device but the warning messages was presented to me. I just
> ignored it...

all the devices being unmounted had no issues prior to the swapping of
the OS drive. only items ever plugged in are simple harddrives in
external enclosures.

> - On standard hard drives this should not happen. Try to debug "umount -
> v /mnt/device" using the console. Also, check "dmesg" for additional
> information.
> - "lsof" lists the opened files, you could also check that...

i will try both of those. thanks


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