From: ray on
Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote:

> ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> > >
> > That could be related to so called multi tasking. If you leave certain
> > apps running in the background I would think battery life will suffer.
> > I haven't noticed any deterioration. The only app I have that eats the
> > battery is CoPilotLive, but that has issues with IOS4 relating to the
> > safety camera database which is easy to overcome.
>
> That's interesting- I do use CoPilot and, although the safety camera
> database isn't a major issue it would be interesting to look at fixes -
> any more information / leads, please?

See my reply to Stuart.
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From: SM on
ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I hadn't noticed a problem with CoPilot which I only use it in a TomTom
> > cradle. What's its problem with speed camera database?
> >
> There is a common issue with the latest upgrade to CoPilotLive V8. The
> first time you start it after the upgrade an error message pops up,
> something about incompatible safety camera database, I can't recall the
> exact words. The start up halts and the app freezes.
> According to the CoPilot developers killing the app and restarting will
> fix it. That didn't work for me. But uninstalling the app via iTunes and
> reinstalling did fix it.
> There are a lot of complaints about this on the app store. ALK say the
> latest upgrade fixed it, but it didn't.

I haven't seen that problem on mine, thankfully. I noticed a large PoI
update the other day - hopefully they'll have removed some average speed
cameras on A38 roadworks which are long gone.

> The other issue I have with it, and one I have an open bug report for,
> is the voice prompt telling me to turn right when the map is showing a
> left turn. Or vice verse. The map is correct.
> It doesn't happen often, I've seen it maybe half a dozen times in the
> month or so I've been using the app over several hundred miles.

I've seen (and heard) that once but it was on a turning which I was
familiar with anyway.

Many thanks for the info.

Stuart
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From: David Empson on
Lynn W <lynn.williamson(a)FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:

> On 09/07/2010 01:09, in article 1jlcx8z.b8aooc9rx4mgN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz,
> "David Empson" <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > bella jonez <bellajonez(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Tim Hodgson <thnews(a)poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>> Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm starting to see a few reports around the 'Net (and from SWMBO)
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> 3GSs have poorer battery life after installing iOS4. Anyone else
> >>>>> seeing
> >>>>> this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Possibly, but what i have seen with 3GS are lags in various apps -
> >>>> safari, echofon, and things in general. camera is another one.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, camera is the big one here. It now takes about...
> >>> <checks>
> >>> ...4 seconds from launch to get to the ready-to-click point. Quite
> >>> irritating.
> >>
> >> Hope they bring out a 4.1 soon.
> >
> > Getting a bit ahead of yourself there. Apple will release a 4.0.1 soon
> > (bug fixes, security features, perhaps some minor tweaks but no
> > significant changes).
> >
> > If there is a 4.1, it will include more significant improvements,
> > perhaps some changes in behaviour. Judging from past versions, that
> > isn't likely before September, possibly coinciding with the release of
> > iOS 4 for the iPad (bringing the two product lines into feature parity
> > and their versions in sync).
>
> Do you think there is any chance of them doing something that allows 3G
> users to revert back to OS3 to give them back their phone how it used to be!

Extremely unlikely. Apple has rarely (if ever) implemented special
support for downgrading. Apart from anything else, downgrading to 3.x
from 4.x will expose you to known security issues which Apple has
published.

It is more likely they will aim to do performance improvements in 4.0.x
updates.

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From: Lynn W on
On 09/07/2010 12:16, in article 1jldxlh.8d0ogxkba2frN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz,
"David Empson" <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Lynn W <lynn.williamson(a)FOREVERREDbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/07/2010 01:09, in article 1jlcx8z.b8aooc9rx4mgN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz,
>> "David Empson" <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> bella jonez <bellajonez(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim Hodgson <thnews(a)poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm starting to see a few reports around the 'Net (and from SWMBO)
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> 3GSs have poorer battery life after installing iOS4. Anyone else
>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly, but what i have seen with 3GS are lags in various apps -
>>>>>> safari, echofon, and things in general. camera is another one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, camera is the big one here. It now takes about...
>>>>> <checks>
>>>>> ...4 seconds from launch to get to the ready-to-click point. Quite
>>>>> irritating.
>>>>
>>>> Hope they bring out a 4.1 soon.
>>>
>>> Getting a bit ahead of yourself there. Apple will release a 4.0.1 soon
>>> (bug fixes, security features, perhaps some minor tweaks but no
>>> significant changes).
>>>
>>> If there is a 4.1, it will include more significant improvements,
>>> perhaps some changes in behaviour. Judging from past versions, that
>>> isn't likely before September, possibly coinciding with the release of
>>> iOS 4 for the iPad (bringing the two product lines into feature parity
>>> and their versions in sync).
>>
>> Do you think there is any chance of them doing something that allows 3G
>> users to revert back to OS3 to give them back their phone how it used to be!
>
> Extremely unlikely. Apple has rarely (if ever) implemented special
> support for downgrading. Apart from anything else, downgrading to 3.x
> from 4.x will expose you to known security issues which Apple has
> published.
>
> It is more likely they will aim to do performance improvements in 4.0.x
> updates.

Hopefully as I am really disappointed with the situation


Lynn
Live for today, as tomorrow is not promised


From: ray on
SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote:

> > The other issue I have with it, and one I have an open bug report for,
> > is the voice prompt telling me to turn right when the map is showing a
> > left turn. Or vice verse. The map is correct.
> > It doesn't happen often, I've seen it maybe half a dozen times in the
> > month or so I've been using the app over several hundred miles.
>
> I've seen (and heard) that once but it was on a turning which I was
> familiar with anyway.

ALK have come back asking for details of the trip on which I encountered
the problem. I don't think I can do that as I have lost all previous
trip details due to reinstalling the app.
I'm driving down to London at the weekend over a route I know well, I'll
keep it running for the trip to see if it misbehaves.

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